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Old 09-01-2014, 08:11 AM   #1
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None commercial Redhat


Hello y'all

Hope you all had a great weekend?

OK, to start like this. Been a user of Redhat Linux for a while now, and have gotten so fond of the feel e.g, file structure, commands and how it operate.

I moved over to using Redhat Enterprise server" and Oracle Enterprise Linux which also gave me the needed feel as Redhat Linux, but i had issues when using yum, rpm etc.

Someone later brought it to my notice that the above distro were for commercial use, and advise i get a non commercial use, which took me to"Ubuntu and Fedora which some commands from Redhat don't work on

Now i want a Linux distro that has the same capability as Redhat flavor, with same commands and all. and if we have a non commercial Redhat for users, i would like to be told about it.

Hope to read from someone soon

Regards
 
Old 09-01-2014, 09:00 AM   #2
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Check out CentOS or Scientific Linux. Both are essentially clones of Red Hat Enterprise.
 
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:35 AM   #3
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Hello y'all
OK, to start like this. Been a user of Redhat Linux for a while now, and have gotten so fond of the feel e.g, file structure, commands and how it operate. I moved over to using Redhat Enterprise server" and Oracle Enterprise Linux which also gave me the needed feel as Redhat Linux, but i had issues when using yum, rpm etc.

Someone later brought it to my notice that the above distro were for commercial use, and advise i get a non commercial use, which took me to"Ubuntu and Fedora which some commands from Redhat don't work on
Yes...CentOS and others were suggested to you three years ago:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-linux-870491/

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Now i want a Linux distro that has the same capability as Redhat flavor, with same commands and all. and if we have a non commercial Redhat for users, i would like to be told about it.
Pretty much ANY distribution of Linux has the same capabilities as RHEL. And probably 99% of the commands are identical, with the only differences being the specific systems-administration commands. For example, you'd run "yum" on RHEL, while you'd run "zypper" on openSUSE. These things are small, and easy to figure out.

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Old 09-01-2014, 10:50 AM   #4
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One difference between the RH/CenOS/Fedora/SL and other distributions is the use of SELinux to provide additional security controls.
 
Old 09-01-2014, 12:17 PM   #5
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One difference between the RH/CenOS/Fedora/SL and other distributions is the use of SELinux to provide additional security controls.
Selinux appears to be available for Fedora, Ubuntu, and openSUSE. openSUSE has the option of using it or AppArmor.
 
Old 09-01-2014, 02:27 PM   #6
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Oracle Enterprise Linux can be used without a license and get full updates. They specifically offer that as an option. However, CentOS is a good alternative.
 
Old 09-01-2014, 05:29 PM   #7
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CentOS is Red Hat Enterprise Linux without the branding (like Tao and White Box back in the day) and made for the whole Enterprise Linux community. Scientific Linux goal is to cater for CERN, Fermilab and other research institutes. Oracle Linux is the only one that incorporates DTrace. IMHO the best choice for general purpose Enterprise use would be CentOS.
 
Old 09-09-2014, 03:01 PM   #8
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Hey y'all, its always good to read from you guys. Cant deny how much have learn t from this forum, but its never ends.

Anyway, continuing with the initial post trail, i still stand with the opinion that there are much differences in flavors of Linux as oppose to TBOne comment that 99% of the commands are identical, also file system are somewhat different going further. for example, like Ubuntu and Fedora don't have "neat" command like in RHEL, also configuring your network can be easily done in "/etc/sysconfig"in RHEL, this file does not exist in Ubuntu or Fedora, i wonder how you configure the network in this flavors of Linux???

I would like to know what file to configure in this flavors of Linux i saw two files in the /etc folder NetworkManager and network. can someone give a good detail on what they do.

To end this, i feel Redhat still has the best flavor and straight forward file system and commands. MyOpinion

hope to read from someone soon

Regards
 
Old 09-09-2014, 03:06 PM   #9
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Then install CentOS 6.5.

neat can be installed in any distro as far as I know, and network configuration falls into the other 1% that does differ between distros (along with package management, system configuration tools, and a couple of other things).
 
Old 09-09-2014, 03:33 PM   #10
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^^ what he said
 
Old 09-09-2014, 04:54 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Ribo01 View Post
Hey y'all, its always good to read from you guys. Cant deny how much have learn t from this forum, but its never ends.

Anyway, continuing with the initial post trail, i still stand with the opinion that there are much differences in flavors of Linux as oppose to TBOne comment that 99% of the commands are identical, also file system are somewhat different going further.
Wrong...file systems aren't different at all, and the ONLY differences between CentOS and RHEL are minor branding issues. Again, you were told about CentOS THREE YEARS AGO...have you not done any research about it? Seen ANY of the hundreds of threads about it here? Read ANY articles about the differences between it and RHEL??? unSpawn gave you a good explanation.
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for example, like Ubuntu and Fedora don't have "neat" command like in RHEL, also configuring your network can be easily done in "/etc/sysconfig"in RHEL, this file does not exist in Ubuntu or Fedora, i wonder how you configure the network in this flavors of Linux???
You either edit the sysconfig files manually, or run whatever tools that distro has. Run yast on openSUSE, and you'll easily see it. Put "how to configure network in Fedora" into Google, and you'll find out how to do it there. Same goes for Mint, Ubuntu, or any other distro.

Again, the differences between RHEL and ANY other distro are trivial. Applications that run on Fedora will more than likely run on openSUSE or Ubuntu. Source code compiles just as easily, and packages can still be installed.
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I would like to know what file to configure in this flavors of Linux i saw two files in the /etc folder NetworkManager and network. can someone give a good detail on what they do.
Yes, Google can. Since you've been looking into this for three years, have you made NO PROGRESS at all????? There are some similarities, and some differences...unless you ask about a SPECIFIC distro/file, we're not going to start listing things for you.
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To end this, i feel Redhat still has the best flavor and straight forward file system and commands. MyOpinion
Great...so again, GO AND PURCHASE RED HAT ENTERPRISE...it is NOT FREE. If you don't want to pay, load CentOS. If you do, then get Red Hat...not much else to consider.
 
Old 09-09-2014, 08:28 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Ribo01 View Post
Hey y'all, its always good to read from you guys. Cant deny how much have learn t from this forum, but its never ends.

Anyway, continuing with the initial post trail, i still stand with the opinion that there are much differences in flavors of Linux as oppose to TBOne comment that 99% of the commands are identical, also file system are somewhat different going further. for example, like Ubuntu and Fedora don't have "neat" command like in RHEL,
stop right there. ive been a RHEL/CentOS/Whitebox/Fedora user for a long time and I can tell you with 100% conviction that the commands in RHEL are in Fedora. they are 100% identical. If you are running into issues that would be from running an older, yet maybe still supported version of RHEL (v4 unsupported or v5 still supported) and comparing them with Fedora 17 or newer, although RHELv5.x still has 100% compatibly with Fedora 17-20, soon to include 21.

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also configuring your network can be easily done in "/etc/sysconfig"in RHEL, this file does not exist in Ubuntu or Fedora, i wonder how you configure the network in this flavors of Linux???
The exact same way you configure it in RHEL, that file is there and its in all Fedora/RHEL/CentOS/ScientificLinux releases for the simple reason, they are all based on the same kernel set.

If you are having issues with finding it, make sure you have all of the proper network management tools installed and that network manager is disabled or better yet removed, unless you are running a laptop, then it can come in handy for dealing with the mobile wifi usage.

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I would like to know what file to configure in this flavors of Linux i saw two files in the /etc folder NetworkManager and network. can someone give a good detail on what they do.
again if you can do this in RHEL, you can do this in CentOS, you can do this in Fedora. its all the same.

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To end this, i feel Redhat still has the best flavor and straight forward file system and commands. MyOpinion

hope to read from someone soon

Regards
being comfortable with a distro is not a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination, but making false statements due to ignorance, ie lack of knowledge, is never good.

Again RedHat OWNS Fedora, yes it is an open project, but RedHat still owned the Fedora name and their devs have the final say as to what is and what is not included in each release. You can think of Fedora as the test bed for future RHEL releases. The perfect example is Fedora 19/20 are the basis for RHELv7. The life span of RHELv7.x will remain built on the Fedora 19/20 backbone including but not limited to their kernel version.

As mentioned above CentOS is a 100% source rpm rebuild of RHEL with the RedHat logo's, names, etc... (trade marked stuff) removed and does not have access to the higher capacity/performance releases of RHEL, that you and I do not have use for in personal use. were talking their Cloud based servers, but we do have 100% free access now to their cloud based services. big difference.

As for Scientific Linux, i can not say its 100% source rpm rebuild as I've never looked into it or used it, but I do know that it uses the exact same repos as RHEL for sources and branding like CentOS does.

Also keep in mind that RedHat has invested heavily into the CentOS project with the primary goal of drastically improving the quality of the CentOS repos and the timeliness of the updates/patches/etc... for CentOS. Perfect example was RedHats goal to have CentOSv7 released within 30days of RHELv7 going live to the public. They were close it took just at 35days or so, IIRC. In the past it could take as much as 2-3 months before a new release went live. Big advantage. Security updates/patches/kernel updates etc are taking now less then 24hrs to migrate from RHEL repos to CentOS repos.

So please use CentOS or Scientific Linux with the knowledge that they are compatible with RHEL and also know that the commands you use in RHEL will work in Fedora.
 
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Old 09-10-2014, 04:00 PM   #13
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reading through all this and old posts

it might be my age
mid 40's

but " basic research " !!!

being able to do that looks to be missing these days

it is a BLEEDDLY BLEEP easier that bask in the 1980's

i learned to do research in THE LIBRARY

OP
please do some research !!!

Cent is almost the same as RHEL
and so is Scientificlinux
 
  


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