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Old 10-14-2003, 08:19 AM   #1
Bruce Hill
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no X server due to wrong Nvidia driver


Just loaded Debian Woody 3.0r1 with the bf24 kernel on a new comp It has an AMD Athlon 2000+ on an Asus A7V8X-X with 256MB Kingston DDR400. The video card is a 518PE NVidia GeForce4 MX-440-8X. Monitor is a Philips 150B4 LCD. I have the correct vert and hor rates for it, as I use the same monitor on this other comp I'm posting from.

When the configuration for Xserver-xfree86 came I chose nv and then set up my monitor. When I got back to the prompt and typed
# startx
it came back to the prompt and errored with

(II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: the latest chipset listed was the GeForce 3 (rev 3)
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.


and it returned me to #


What do I do? I am reading MasterC's thread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...threadid=71711 about Nvidia drivers, and am wondering if I have to somehow install this driver now, or later?
 
Old 10-14-2003, 08:23 AM   #2
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You'll need to get the either xfree from unstable (might work w/o 3d acceleration) or install the nvidia driver from nvidia (will work for sure).
 
Old 10-14-2003, 08:30 AM   #3
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You'll need to get the either xfree from unstable (might work w/o 3d acceleration) or install the nvidia driver from nvidia (will work for sure).
Could you tell me how to "get xfree" from unstable? Should I change my apt sources and apt-get install? I have the first 2 CD's for sarge.
 
Old 10-14-2003, 08:36 AM   #4
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you will get the latest XFree from www.xfree.org .anyway,iunstalling the nvidia drivers will do the trick.(check my sig for the site.)
--arun
 
Old 10-14-2003, 08:44 AM   #5
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Okay, I got the Nvidia download already. Guess I'll try to put it on a floppy and transfer to the other comp. I don't know what xfree is for, but I know I need this video driver.

Thanks IsNoGood and arunshivanandan (you got several links in your sig I want to check out). Looks like I'm in for a long night. Good thing I just made a fresh pot of coffee
 
Old 10-14-2003, 08:46 AM   #6
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You'll have to change the apt sources but you'll need to download xfree - the unstable version is not on the CD's.Better check if your chip is supported in the unstable version of xfree.I think they are at version 4.2.1 right now.You are probably better off with the nvidia driver.
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Dammit you are too fast for me - have a good look at the howto that came with the nvidia driver.

Last edited by IsNoGood; 10-14-2003 at 08:49 AM.
 
Old 10-14-2003, 08:49 AM   #7
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Confirmation - might as well configure and install the new 2.4.22 kernel whilst I'm at it.
 
Old 10-14-2003, 10:00 AM   #8
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new error

Anyone game for a new error?

I did apt-get install wget and then downloaded NVIDIA_nforce_1.0-0261.tar.gz but that file wouldn't work, so I downloaded with this comp and moved via a floppy.

According to their instructions did (first did apt-get install make)
# tar -xvzf NVIDIA_nforce_1.0-0261.tar.gz
# cd nforce
# make

but that returned

john:/home/mingdao/nforce# make
make -C nvnet
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mingdao/nforce/nvnet'
cc -c -Wall -DLINUX -DMODULE -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -D__KERNEL__ -0 -Wstrict-prototypes
-DCONFIG_PM -fno-strict-aliasing -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -mal
ign-functions=4 -DMODULE -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.18/include nvnet.c
make[1]: cc: Command not found
make[1]: *** [nvnet.o] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mingdao/nforce/nvnet'
make: *** [nvnet_make] Error 2
john:/home/mingdao/nforce#

Is there something else I should have gotten along with make? What should I do? One thing looks strange to me - I have an Athlon XP 2000+ cpu and that one line says i686 but I don't know...
 
Old 10-14-2003, 11:45 AM   #9
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Hehe - no compiler installed.Do a whereis gcc.If that doesn't turn up something: apt-get gcc
In other developments:It's agood thing that you mentioned the file you downloaded.
Thats the drivers for nforce2 based motherboards.The graphics driver is called NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run
 
Old 10-23-2003, 11:55 AM   #10
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IsNoGood,

That nick is no good for you. Thanks for noticing that I had the wrong driver from Nvidia.

I got tired of fooling with Debian for this machine (my wife and daughter's) so I installed with the Knoppix v3.3 CD. Then I used instructions from the Knoppix.net forum and got the Nvidia drivers installed just fine. Hey, it's not a true lean and mean Debian dist, but it is up and running without all the work it takes starting from the 2.4.18-bf2.4 Woody non-US CD 1 like I'm doing on my main PC
 
Old 10-24-2003, 06:48 AM   #11
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I got a nforce2 mobo right now with a fx5600 card and gave up on installing debian.There is almost no way to do it without CD or another distro already installed.Put gentoo on and that just does everything nicely out-of-the-box.It's the only distro that works w/o screwing around for that hardware I know of.
Have fun - good to see you got it going.
 
Old 10-24-2003, 07:58 AM   #12
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I got a nforce2 mobo right now with a fx5600 card and gave up on installing debian.There is almost no way to do it without CD or another distro already installed.Put gentoo on and that just does everything nicely out-of-the-box.It's the only distro that works w/o screwing around for that hardware I know of.
Have fun - good to see you got it going.
Okay, talk to me. You tried Debian but you're now using Gentoo? Your cp doesn't list your distro. How long have you been running any Linux distro?

I have the Gentoo basic 1.4_rc4 Live CD in my desk drawer. I just looked at a link http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml with the coolest looking installation documentation I've seen. However, most of the Linux docs I've seen are written by guys so far from being a newbie that they seem to leave out many details that you can't just guess about.

I know how to setup, run, and manipulate Windblows. I've used it for years, and build and repair comps. However, I am determined to get that junk off my comps!

What I want is a Linux workstation that runs like a cheeta, and is lean and mean. My main needs are a text editor, Photoshop (or Gimp), PageMaker (or Scribus), Dreamweaver (no replacement that I know of), a web browser (Mozilla's fine) and the slickest mail manager I can get (mail should be like command line stuff). Nothing else is too important, but the main thing I want is to be able to "use my computer to work" rather than "work to use my computer." So far, my Linux experience has been nothing but a lot of work to use the thing, and the manuals and how-to's are not very good documentation.

So, with Gentoo, how do you get packages? Is it the Portage system? Is that better than APT? Or comparable?

I will probably leave Knoppix on the other comp for now. However, this box needs a good Linux OS, and I am not going to put some bloated junk like RedHat back on my computers.

This, basically, is my box. You can get specific info on the board from Asus. It's got onboard sound and a Broadcom Gigabit LAN. I also have a little cheap Realtek 8139C nic that anything will detect, because the Debian 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel I was using doesn't detect the Gigabit LAN - I have to get and compile a new kernel for that, and other hardware.

Asus P4PE
Intel P4 2.4 GHz
ATI Radeon 9000
(2) 512MB Kingston DDR333
(2) Maxtor 60GB ATA133 (board only supports ATA100 for IDE)
Asus 52X CD-ROM
Sony DRU-500AX DVD+/-RW
Floppy
Microtek ScanMaker 4850
HP Deskjet 920C
and several other USB gadgets, etc.
I run an Asus ADSL modem and a D-Link router - ADSL is 512Kbps upload and 2Mbps download.
 
Old 10-24-2003, 08:23 AM   #13
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I went from Connectiva to Suse and then to Debian.Always been running gentoo on the side since it popped up.Had also another assortment of distros on there I didn't use much or any at all (mandrake was the champ - that went flying off the disk after 5 minutes flat).
Gentoo is a pretty painless install but you should be comfortable with adjusting some files with an tex editor during the install.
The key to not getting screwed up with gentoo is to use stable and look at the gentoo forums before you do any major upgrades for signs of trouble.
You can get all the stuff you need with gentoo and if it isn't in portage it is generally easy to compile it from source since you always got all the headers you need installed and everything is pretty much in the default locations.
Portage is pretty much the same as apt as far as resolving dependencies is concerned.
You'll have as much work as you want to with it.If you always install the latest packages things will break as in they will with any other distro.
But be warned - I got a AMD2600 and it takes about 1 day to get from zero to kde with it,also depending on the net connection if you compile everything from source and don't use the ready builds.
Scream at me if you want to go ahead with it - I'll give you a couple of pointers to make live easier.
 
Old 10-24-2003, 10:36 AM   #14
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Since I replied to you last, I got KDE from testing. And then I changed my
/etc/apt/sources.list to unstable and got Mozilla. Two problems with all that,
and maybe if I'd gotten KDE from unstable I wouldn't have these. By the way,
I used dselect for KDE, because I knew it would have a lot of stuff with it. Boy,
did it ever! Thought I'd never come out of dselect!

The problems are: first, KDE won't let me use SSL, which is a must for my
email here. Second, it won't launch Mozilla. Says it can't find the Mozilla
executable. And I got mail from Debconf that says:
Debian mozilla will load /etc/mozilla/prefs.js after loading some default
preference scripts.

You can edit this file for system-wide settings. (i.e.: font settings)

Whatever in the world that means, I don't know. I guess I can do a whereis
mozilla and eventually find the executable. I'm not brain dead, after all. And
KDE is running slow, and opening stuff slow. But I got a P4 2.4 GHz and
1 GB of PC2700, so I don't mind a big window manager. However, since in
my opinion, faster is better, I'll probably ditch KDE in favor of fluxbox, blackbox,
xfce or some other thing. I still don't know the window managers and desktops
and which combination is best. Reading, in all my spare time. Ha ha!

It's 10:30 p.m. here and my day started at 4:30 a.m. with only a 30 minute nap.
I'll get some sleep and maybe install Gentoo via that guide at the link I posted
when I wake up in 5 or 6 hours. My ADSL speed will be good then, cause
most everybody here will be asleep. Is that Live CD I mentioned the thing to
use, or is there something else? I got room to put Gentoo, and if I know pretty
soon that I prefer it over Debian, I can repartition really quick. I got the stuff
spanned over 2 hd's for performance.

Thanks for the help. How long you been at this Linux stuff? I know that I can
ditch M$ with a few exceptions pretty soon.
 
Old 10-24-2003, 11:59 AM   #15
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Been screwing around with Linux for 3 years or something like that - never even used windows - only OS/2 for my job.
I use kde just for the reason that it is real easy to have an environment in different languages.Wife speaks brasilian,I am german and put one user in for that but use english.
Really don't have any speed or memory issues with it either.
About the gentoo thing:
I suppose you can use the live CD.After all you already got that.
Got no idea what is on there since I always use a stage1 tarball but I am pretty sure you can use that the same way.
What I usually do is to keep the documentation open on one screen and do the installation on another screen.If it gives you any crap about permissions just type passw and create one - don't know if they fixed that one in the meantime.
If you got stage 3 for your processor on the CD I would take it from there.If not I would compile from stage 1 with the right flags for your processor.You might want to go with the default flags in there (in /etc/make.conf).
Try to emerge ufed and mirrorselect as soon as possible.ufed is handy to configure the USE flags and mirrorselect will check for the fastest mirror.
Be careful about how much space you allocate for gentoo - building from source takes sometimes a lot of tmp space.Mozilla uses about 800mb tmp space to compile.
If you know what you need in your kernel don't use genkernel to compile it but the regular route by hand.There are a lot of people that had problems with genkernel.
Also check with the desktop configuration guide on the gentoo site.There's all the info you need to get x and a desktop up and running.
Good luck and let me know if you run into any trouble.
 
  


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