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Old 06-06-2012, 05:07 PM   #1
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Question No /var/log/messages , syslog , kern.log -but cat /var/spool/octopussy/octo_fifo


Hi,

I made some changes in my nginx and apache web server and all logging stopped work.
If i use
cat /var/spool/octopussy/octo_fifo
I can see some messages which supposed to be stored in messages,kern.log,syslog,mail.err,cron.log,auth.log ... .
rsyslogd runs , octopussy runs , apache runs , nginx runs ... .
Could please anybody help me to fix it ?

thank you,
kind regards,
M.


P.S. how is it about syslog , rsyslog , inetutils-syslogd and systemd in ubuntu 12.04 - any documentation please ?
should be systemd superseded rsyslog in future - as rsyslog superseded syslog ... ?
 
Old 06-07-2012, 04:53 PM   #2
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I made some changes in my nginx and apache web server and all logging stopped work.
Well, undo your changes and see if it fixes that.
Then post the proposed changes and what you want to achieve for comments.


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how is it about syslog , rsyslog , inetutils-syslogd and systemd in ubuntu 12.04 - any documentation please ?
You mean commands like 'man rsyslog' or 'ls /usr/share/doc/rsyslog*' don't yield anything?


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should be systemd superseded rsyslog in future - as rsyslog superseded syslog ... ?
No, rsyslog superseded syslog and systemd (the horror, the horror) superseded init.
 
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:47 PM   #3
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Thank you for help and explanation.

Well, I made changes back in configs and it started to logging again.

(Documentation is usually about one soft - is not saying about reliability , configure-ability , complexity , weaknesses and ... . I did not find any yet :-)). I had in mind to read some article from highly experienced user/admin where I can find comparison (init vs. init.d vs. systemd) (syslog vs.rsyslog vs. some another) of those software - benefits , weaknesses and so on.

I had many problems with rsyslog before (no logging many times) - it was difficult for me , linux newcomer, to solve it. I went through many documentations/forums and tried different configuration/s but from my point of view I just thought that I can use some more reliable software than rsyslog. That is just my bad experience with this important soft.

About systemd: I have just read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd and wanted to give it a try.
I am curious why are you saying that systemd is horror :-) ? Do you have some bad experience within configuration or running or something else ?

Thanks for info,
Regards,
M.
 
Old 06-09-2012, 06:31 PM   #4
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I had many problems with rsyslog before (no logging many times)
Problems are there to be solved. Rsyslog has pretty good documentation: see the web site.
Else, like I said before, post what you need to do and what changes to make and we'll comment.


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I just thought that I can use some more reliable software than rsyslog.
As long as I've used rsyslog I found it to be reliable.


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am curious why are you saying that systemd is horror :-) ? Do you have some bad experience within configuration or running or something else ?
No, it's something else. I'm still getting accustomed to its "all eggs in one basket" vs the old "one tool one purpose" approach.
 
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FWIW / FUP: The H featured a nice expl on systemd recently: Control Centre: The systemd Linux init system.
 
  


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