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Old 05-30-2003, 03:38 PM   #181
dsantamassino
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Well ozzu sucks... That's one of the worst places i can go for help. Please don't make this place in the way ozzu.com was. I said it in ozzu that it sucks and they ban me. Which i really don't care what they do. To: Ewen, I really don't care you go back to ozzu.com and tell the site administrator they i said it sucks. They want i have to say. Another one for you Ewen if you don't like my postes they don't reply to them. Do you understand?? Well that's all i have to say. wow they felt good after i let that all out. now i'm going to work on the kernel and ewen don't bother me.
 
Old 05-30-2003, 04:09 PM   #182
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This is what i typed in first. /usr/src/linux and then i typed this in. make dep. This is the exact message i got. make: *** No rule to make target 'dep'. Stop.

Did i type everything in right?? Thanks whansard.
 
Old 05-30-2003, 04:34 PM   #183
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Wait a minute guys. I really have to say something. I'm going to copy and paste what i got off of http://www.computing.net. I'm sorry they i don't understand you guys. Well i'm going to post right now.

That's alright.... Derek, I really wanted to help you and I still do.... You have to understand a few things before we proceed here..... I'm not even sure where to begin to tell you the truth.....

1. Forget about your modem for now. NO, REALLY.... Forget about your modem for just 10 minutes and listen to what I have to say....

I really want to help you. I have invested a considerable amount of time following your progress and keeping track of everything you have done...(3 different forums) So have ALOT of other people... But, you are burning bridges on EVERY forum you go to.... First off, you have to understand something.... That being "Forum Etiquette"... You are just being too pushy for people... You come off as ingratefull and everyone gets pissed and stops helping you...

Now don't get mad or pissed. I'm just telling you how it really is.... I still want to help, but you need to stop.....As Bigwebmaster said... "You are trying to run before you even know how to walk".... You own half of the posts on www.ozzu.com forums.....The Mod finally killed ONE of the MANY thread's and probably killed your account as well....

The people at linuxquestions.org have showed so much patience, I am just amazed.... 12 pages and counting. Fancypiper threw in the towel and everyone else is going to follow suit unless you calm down and learn a few things first.....

Should I continue? Am I just wasting my time here like you say that I am? I am probably the only person who will help you now on this forum after what you just said above.....

I am going to stop right there and let you reflect on that. If you want to continue, let me know.... I WANT TO HELP YOU. You have to help yourself first and be willing to get to the basics before we throw you to the wolves... Meaning, I need to take you step by step thru the basics of UNIX commands before we can ever get your modem to work. No s--- cat.... That is step one.... You will NEVER be able to get your modem to work unless we start at square one. Square one would be to have a basic understanding of the terminal window. Post back and let me know that you are willing and ready to learn and we will get you using Linux. When everything starts to come together and you UNDERSTAND Linux..... It will be such a gratifying feeling. More so than just browsing the web with Linux and not knowing squat about the OS.... Post back.... I am ready to help you.... The only thing is, you can't mention your modem to me until I feel that you are ready to tackle it.... Deal?

Jon


Please forgive me guys. It seems like no one wants to help me anymore. I really would like whansard and MasterC to read over this because i really want them to continue helping me without them going to throw in the towel and give up. Please don't do that. Please reply back. Thank You.
 
Old 05-30-2003, 06:32 PM   #184
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to: Rick422. Did you read over my previous post?? Rick, Are you and do you want to continue helping me?? I know most i don't understand. What do you think of the previous post?? Please reply back and let me know what you think. Are you guys going to ban me?? Thank You Rick.
 
Old 05-30-2003, 07:17 PM   #185
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I read over your previous post. I agree with the part that says "You are trying to run before you even know how to walk." I had exactly the same thought last night in our other thread where I was trying to help you cut and past your error messages into a text file and save it on a floppy disk. It was difficult because I had to explain every possbile detail as if you did not understood anything we were doing. I finally gave you one last carefully worded instruction on how to mout a floppy disk and then never heard back from you. Did it work or not? Several minutes later I saw that you were logged off, so I quit too.

You are not yet ready for such difficult tasks. You need to learn to use basic Linux commands first. For the last year or so I have tried to teach myself 1 or 2 new Linux commands every day. You should start doing that too. In a few weeks or months you then will then know enough. Borrow a Linux or Unix book from the Library or download something and get started. Your current copy of Red Hat works good enough for that. Sart near the beginning of the book and learn to use command such as: ls, cp, cd, pwd, mount and others.

If you wish to do that I will answer an occasional short simple question about doing simple ordinary tasks using those ordiary basic commands. You are clearly not yeat ready to try anything more difficult yet. I am not currently willing to try anything more difficult until I feel you are ready. I would also like to repeat the suggestion that you should find an inexpensive new or used external serial modem. None of this stuff needs to be done with an external serial modem, they are easy to use. I noticed your many similar questions on the other forum by the way! I will not do all the work for you, I will only help you if you make an effort to lean to use some basic Linux commands first! My 8th grade math tutor told me much the same thing when I was not doing all my algebra homework.
 
Old 05-30-2003, 07:31 PM   #186
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Do you know where i can download a Unix book from?? I posted something in the other thread before you posted here. It seems like no one wants to help me. Please reply back.
 
Old 05-30-2003, 07:54 PM   #187
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I said I wouldn't, but this is absolutely absurd.

Can you read anything I have posted or click on a link in the post?

The two best downloadable books I have found on the internet:
The Linux Newbie Administrator Guide
Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition

What/who are we dealing with here? You need to be at least 6 years old to learn Linux.
 
Old 05-30-2003, 11:42 PM   #188
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"no rule to make target" means you weren't in the
directory with the make file
cd /usr/src/linux
make dep

or cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8
make dep

if you never got the symlink right.
 
Old 05-30-2003, 11:56 PM   #189
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Well thanks whansard. I'm still going to use this site but i'm using computing.net. Jon said that i should give you guys a break and he will help me. He is going to teach me how to write to my windows partition. He is going to teach me Unix commands. and everything else like going to set up my desktop. We made a deal that i don't mentition modem to him until he thinks i'm ready. If you have any questions please reply back. Thank You whansard.
 
Old 05-31-2003, 12:15 AM   #190
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i think that's a really good idea. And the unix commands
aren't just good for unix. there is some software called
cygwin that works in windows, and you can use the
unix command line utilities there.
i did get frustrated a little, but i was glad that you wanted to
use linux so bad that you kept trying.
 
Old 05-31-2003, 12:28 AM   #191
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Do you even want to try to help me again if i have problems?? Please reply back.
 
Old 05-31-2003, 12:37 AM   #192
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i'm sort of worn out for now. and that would break your
deal with Jon.
 
Old 05-31-2003, 01:42 AM   #193
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Hey!!!! If I could grab your ear I would do it........ Get back to our thread.... It's been an hour and no response... I had you working on something remember?

Jon
 
Old 05-31-2003, 06:51 AM   #194
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Cool, evolved into other things. So it would appear that "jong357" is the person helping you from computing.net named Jon, or at least that's what my amazing power of deduction tells me

Since Jon is taking it from scratch to build a good building block of knowledge I'll step back and let him guide you without my input on how to compile a kernel, remove/add GCC, and other slightly more advanced things. Jon, if you need any help, or Derek if you need additional help, I'll be glad to help out. I don't mind using the simplest of explainations to get people rolling, after all this is "Newbie" on the forum "Where newbies come for help"



Cool
 
Old 05-31-2003, 08:31 AM   #195
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Thanks MasterC.... I have a few questions and one of them i don't know why i'm going to ask. Are guys going to ban me like ozzu.com did?? One of the main reasons why they ban me because. I made a post and said that there forum sucks and i told them i found a better place for help at linuxquestions.org.

Here is another question. What is more advance. Redhat Linux 9 or FreeBSD 5.0?? Please reply back MasterC. Thank You.
 
  


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