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Old 09-29-2011, 07:07 PM   #136
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They were written over. The partitions, filesystems, and all the files were all over-written.

You can test this yourself with a USB key. Make some partitions on it. Make some filesystems on those partitions. Try deleting the partitions, then make them again, and make some new filesystems. You will notice that any files you had before will be gone, and you won't be able to find them.


Written over with what?

You could probably steal my apple and replace it with an orange.

My apple is gone not when it is lost data but when it is replaced, substituted, written over, but it has to be like when Indiana Jones substituted some rocks for some gold because it had to weigh the same in order to keep the traps from appearing.

But my apple cannot be replaced by nothing, by free space, can it?

It has to be written over? 80 GBs of free space can't write over lost data apples.


I cannot believe that some people frown at these illustrations.

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Old 09-29-2011, 07:08 PM   #137
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I thought I'd summed it up pretty much OK in post #122. In short, practically speaking:
- the OP doesn't have any external disk available to make backups to and he didn't choose backing up over ethernet,
- he didn't boot from a Live CDROM but started the OS,
- he was talked into doing things that are not data recovery / forensics best practices.
Ok, you did. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, this thread has been driving my brain crazy. So he lost his data, has no backups, and is trying to get everything back, correct?

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Written over with what?

You could probably steal my apple and replace it with an orange.

My apple is gone not when it is lost data but when it is replaced, substituted, written over, but it has to be like when Indiana Jones substituted some rocks for some gold because it had to weigh the same in order to keep the traps from appearing.

But my apple cannot be replaced by nothing, by free space, can it?

It has to be written over? 80 GBs of free space can't write over lost data apples.
Ok, we are not going to ask you again. Stop posting useless posts like this!
 
Old 09-29-2011, 07:14 PM   #138
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uname -a

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Joey please run "uname -a" and post the output. That will show you which kernel version you are running.
uname -a

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o@o-HP-Compaq-6910p-GH715AW-ABA:~$ uname -a
Linux o-HP-Compaq-6910p-GH715AW-ABA 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:18:14 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
o@o-HP-Compaq-6910p-GH715AW-ABA:~$
 
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:25 PM   #139
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Wow, this thread is a complete mess. In my honest opinion, I think this thread should be closed, and a new one re-opened, with none of the BS that has been going on. I am trying to follow everything, but I am completely lost. What exactly is the problem, as of right now?


My laptop deleted it's partitions and rewrote new ones meaning that it is almost impossible to find the files. It is like 9/11 all over again. The building caves in and people are trapped underneath the building. You build a new tower in it's place and it then becomes that much harder to undelete the people who are trapped underneath the buildings, the new partitions.

I lost 80 GBs of mostly videos off my 120 GB Ubuntu laptop's hard drive and all I have is an ethernet cable and this 80GB HD desktop Ubuntu 10.04 tower.
 
Old 09-29-2011, 07:28 PM   #140
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Joey please run these commands and see what the result is:

lsb_release -a

cat /etc/issue

Both those commands will give you information about which version of Ubuntu you are using.

Also you really should stop running the laptop off that disk you are trying to recover. You would be much better off trying to boot it off a live CD or USB stick. It is possible with some planning to get wireless working while running off a live CD.
 
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:41 PM   #141
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Also you really should stop running the laptop off that disk you are trying to recover. You would be much better off trying to boot it off a live CD or USB stick.
I don't know what's worse: you not taking hints or you blithely offering "advise" while all you should be offering is your sincere apologies. Please leave this thread and do not post again. You have embarrassed yourself enough already.

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Old 09-29-2011, 07:44 PM   #142
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I thought I'd summed it up pretty much OK in post #122. In short, practically speaking:
- the OP doesn't have any external disk available to make backups to and he didn't choose backing up over ethernet,
- he didn't boot from a Live CDROM but started the OS,
- he was talked into doing things that are not data recovery / forensics best practices.



I want to recover and/or back up my Ubuntu laptop's hard drive and/or the lost data on it via ethernet and into my Ubuntu desktop tower PC.
 
Old 09-29-2011, 07:46 PM   #143
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Thanks, unSpawn.

Anyway.... To the OP - As stated before, run the following so we know what exact version you are running.
Code:
cat /etc/issue
Now as far as trying to recover your data, lets take this the easy route. Go to the following page - http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
Download, and burn the ISO to a blank disc. This disc will contain the utilities needed to *attempt* to recover any lost or damaged data on your hard drive.
 
Old 09-29-2011, 07:49 PM   #144
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Joey please run these commands and see what the result is:

lsb_release -a

cat /etc/issue

Both those commands will give you information about which version of Ubuntu you are using.

Also you really should stop running the laptop off that disk you are trying to recover. You would be much better off trying to boot it off a live CD or USB stick. It is possible with some planning to get wireless working while running off a live CD.

lsb_release -a
Code:
o@o-HP-Compaq-6910p-GH715AW-ABA:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
Release:	11.04
Codename:	natty
cat /etc/issue
Code:
o@o-HP-Compaq-6910p-GH715AW-ABA:~$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
 
Old 09-29-2011, 07:53 PM   #145
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Alright, so you are running Ubuntu 11.04. Now, just confirming, but you don't have an external hard drive available to restore any data, correct? How about blank CD's or DVD's?
 
Old 09-29-2011, 08:12 PM   #146
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I don't know what's worse: you not taking hints or you blithely offering "advise" while all you should be offering is your sincere apologies. Please leave this thread and do not post again. You have embarrassed yourself enough already.
I've been saying since page 1 that Joey should boot off a live CD or USB stick. Everything I've asked him is to get information, I never told him to run dangerous commands. I was shocked to hear that he was booting off the disk he was trying to recover. And I was shocked to see that he was trying to run random commands, some of which aren't even runnable.

Good luck Joey.
 
Old 09-29-2011, 08:28 PM   #147
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Alright, so you are running Ubuntu 11.04. Now, just confirming, but you don't have an external hard drive available to restore any data, correct? How about blank CD's or DVD's?
I have some DVD-Rs. I don't know if my laptop has a DVD-recorder drive.

I thought my laptop went from Ubuntu 11.10 back to 10.04. (but it's at 11.04 right now, either it only went back don't to 11.04, or I later upgraded back up to 11.04 & forgot about it because my laptop lost itself the end of August 2011)

I don't know how I messed up with these crucial details. I feel embarrassed.

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Old 09-29-2011, 08:55 PM   #148
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SystemRescueCd includes programs I already have.

http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

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Old 09-29-2011, 09:05 PM   #149
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SystemRescueCd includes programs I already have.

http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
Yes, but you need to run a live CD in order to get data off of your hard drive. You can not boot your computer up using the same hard disk you want to recover data off of.
 
Old 09-29-2011, 09:18 PM   #150
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Yes, but you need to run a live CD in order to get data off of your hard drive. You can not boot your computer up using the same hard disk you want to recover data off of.
How do I download this suite onto CD? I cannot find the download link at http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page.

Or can I use a live Ubuntu CD instead? I have one already that I can use.

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