LinuxQuestions.org
Help answer threads with 0 replies.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 11-16-2010, 06:45 PM   #1
Blunda
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2008
Posts: 40

Rep: Reputation: 0
NIC not detected


Hello

Firstly I am new to linux so be very gentle with me!

I have crunchbang lite 9.04.01 installed on an old laptop and I am very pleased with it. apart from one thing, I am unable to connect to internet as it is unable to detect my NIC.

lspci can detect it, see output below:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 42)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801CAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
02:04.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems LT WinModem (rev 02)
02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:06.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
02:0e.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 41)
02:0e.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 41)
02:0e.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 02)

I have tryed running puppy linux live usb to see if that can detect it but none of the modules worked, this may just be a coincedence though? as i say, I am new to all this so this is a massive learning curve for me so any help or information would be much appreciated.
 
Old 11-16-2010, 06:59 PM   #2
stress_junkie
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.04 and CentOS 5.5
Posts: 3,873

Rep: Reputation: 332Reputation: 332Reputation: 332Reputation: 332
Sometimes I just keep trying different live distribution CDs until I find one that works with my hardware.

I Googled the NIC model and found some links that talked about Linux not loading the correct driver (module) for that hardware.

Try using a more "bloated" distribution live CD such as Ubuntu or PCLinuxOS. If that works then the problem may be due to having or not having the correct driver for that NIC. I don't know much about Puppy but I imagine that you could add a module to it if it is running from the internal disk.

Last edited by stress_junkie; 11-16-2010 at 07:05 PM.
 
Old 11-16-2010, 07:52 PM   #3
t1nm@n
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2009
Location: Trivandrum, Kerala, India.
Distribution: Slackware 14.2 x86_64
Posts: 96
Blog Entries: 3

Rep: Reputation: 25
Hey blunda it might be good to assume that you are using a version before lucid puppy. puppy5 lupu-511 is the current version.
 
Old 11-17-2010, 07:44 AM   #4
Blunda
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2008
Posts: 40

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
Its not puppy i want to use its crunch bang.

Im not sure my laptop could handle a "bloated" version but will give it a go

I will see if i can find the correct driver maybe? If it was that how would i go about adding it? remember i am a complete noob at this
 
Old 11-17-2010, 08:22 AM   #5
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Midwest USA, Central Illinois
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 12,541
Blog Entries: 23

Rep: Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943
Hi,

What do you see from the cli with 'ifconfig -a'?
 
Old 11-17-2010, 08:24 AM   #6
stress_junkie
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.04 and CentOS 5.5
Posts: 3,873

Rep: Reputation: 332Reputation: 332Reputation: 332Reputation: 332
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blunda View Post
Its not puppy i want to use its crunch bang.
Ooops.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blunda View Post
Im not sure my laptop could handle a "bloated" version but will give it a go
I will see if i can find the correct driver maybe? If it was that how would i go about adding it? remember i am a complete noob at this
My idea was just to use the live CD to find the correct driver. If a live CD works then you can find which NIC driver is being used and try to install it in your Crunch Bang, system.
 
Old 11-17-2010, 08:54 AM   #7
Blunda
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2008
Posts: 40

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
@onebuck - ifconfig -a produces:

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1352 (1.3 KB) TX bytes:1352 (1.3 KB)

pan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 7a:2f:42:60:46:c0
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)


@stress_junkie - I am currently running ubuntu off usb, but its taking an age to load. if this does work how do i tell wot driver it is using and how do i get that driver over to my crunchbang sytem and get it to use it?
 
Old 11-17-2010, 08:55 AM   #8
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Midwest USA, Central Illinois
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 12,541
Blog Entries: 23

Rep: Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943
Hi,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blunda View Post
Its not puppy i want to use its crunch bang.

Im not sure my laptop could handle a "bloated" version but will give it a go

I will see if i can find the correct driver maybe? If it was that how would i go about adding it? remember i am a complete noob at this
You sure that the correct driver is not being used?
How, what has determined this?
 
Old 11-17-2010, 09:05 AM   #9
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Midwest USA, Central Illinois
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 12,541
Blog Entries: 23

Rep: Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943Reputation: 1943
Hi,

Look at the 'lsmod' for the correct module for the NIC, I think it should be a 'e100' for your device.
 
Old 11-17-2010, 12:31 PM   #10
Blunda
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2008
Posts: 40

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
Quote:
You sure that the correct driver is not being used?
How, what has determined this?
I have no idea, how can i tell this for sure? All I know is that lspci shows my card yet its still not connecting to the network which I know does work.

This is the ouput of lsmod, im not sure what I am looking for?

Code:
Module                  Size  Used by
nls_iso8859_1          12032  0 
nls_cp437              13696  0 
vfat                   18816  0 
fat                    58272  1 vfat
radeon                342816  2 
drm                    96296  3 radeon
bridge                 56340  0 
stp                    10500  1 bridge
bnep                   20224  2 
input_polldev          11912  0 
lp                     17156  0 
joydev                 18368  0 
pcmcia                 44748  0 
snd_intel8x0           37532  0 
snd_ac97_codec        112292  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                9856  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss            46336  0 
snd_mixer_oss          22656  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                82948  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy          10756  0 
snd_seq_oss            37760  0 
snd_seq_midi           14336  0 
snd_rawmidi            29696  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event     15104  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                56880  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer              29704  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device         14988  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
yenta_socket           32396  2 
rsrc_nonstatic         19328  1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core            43540  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
snd                    62628  10 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
ppdev                  15620  0 
iTCO_wdt               19108  0 
iTCO_vendor_support    11652  1 iTCO_wdt
psmouse                61972  0 
soundcore              15200  1 snd
video                  25360  0 
parport_pc             40100  1 
pcspkr                 10496  0 
serio_raw              13316  0 
snd_page_alloc         16904  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
shpchp                 40212  0 
output                 11008  1 video
parport                42220  3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc
intel_agp              34108  1 
agpgart                42696  2 drm,intel_agp
usb_storage            99520  0 
e100                   41740  0 
mii                    13312  1 e100
floppy                 64324  0 
fbcon                  46112  0 
tileblit               10752  1 fbcon
font                   16384  1 fbcon
bitblit                13824  1 fbcon
softcursor              9984  1 bitblit
compcache              12876  1 
lzo_decompress         10880  1 compcache
lzo_compress           10880  1 compcache
tlsf                   14092  1 compcache
 
Old 11-17-2010, 04:31 PM   #11
Blunda
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2008
Posts: 40

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
just had a thought, could it be an issue withe the network manager app? because it is that which reports "no network devices available"
 
Old 11-17-2010, 06:15 PM   #12
markush
Senior Member
 
Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Germany
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 3,979

Rep: Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850
Hi Blunda,

referring to this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/sh...hp/product/469 your nic needs the e100 module which is loaded. This looks quite good.
You'll only have to configure your network. Are you using DHCP? would you please tell something about the configuration/hardware/router etc?

Markus
 
Old 11-18-2010, 02:22 AM   #13
Blunda
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2008
Posts: 40

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
hi marcus

Yes, I will be using DHCP. Its a wired connection to a lynksys broadband router, what other information do you need?

so it needs to be configured? makes sence, the problem is the network management app which comes with crunch bang cant detect a network device which is probably the problem??

EDIT: I have read somthing about another network manager to wicd, is it worth giving that a go? the problem is it recomends installing it via the package manager and as i have no internet connection ther is no way for me to download it. is thee a way i can manualyu add ut to the package manager.

Last edited by Blunda; 11-18-2010 at 02:39 AM.
 
Old 11-18-2010, 02:31 AM   #14
markush
Senior Member
 
Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Germany
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 3,979

Rep: Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850Reputation: 850
Well, Crunchbang seems to be a fork of Ubuntu. Since I've use Ubuntu only for some days I don't know which networkmanagement they use.
Normally with ethernet (cable) and DHCP everything should work out of the box in every distribution nowadays. Only thing is that the network has to be started. Please try
Code:
ifconfig pan0 up
on the commandline (provided that pan0 is the name of the interface referring to the output of "ifconfig" you posted in an earlier post).
Edit: it may be sufficient to execute
Code:
dhcpcd pan0
and please post the errormessages if it doesn't work

Markus

Last edited by markush; 11-18-2010 at 03:23 AM. Reason: another idea
 
Old 11-18-2010, 03:17 AM   #15
Blunda
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2008
Posts: 40

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
I just tryed it and ther was no error message, there was nothing actualy, just went back to prompt, does that mean it worked?

I just installed Wicd using Keryx which installs packages offline. Wicd atleast appears to be trying to connect but looks like it has issues obtaining IP
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
NIC not detected ! debianD Debian 5 08-09-2009 11:21 AM
Second NIC not detected!? me99 Linux - Networking 8 10-14-2008 08:51 AM
My nic doesn't get detected nc3b Debian 2 05-01-2006 02:31 AM
NIC Of NIC/Graphics Card Combo Not Detected username132 Linux - Hardware 2 04-04-2006 11:16 PM
nic not detected gnmabc Linux - Networking 7 06-13-2005 05:57 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:40 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration