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Old 05-02-2016, 01:22 PM   #16
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Are you guys sure? My KDE is using just 1.6% of 8GB of ram. My systems seems to run smoothly.

I included a snapshot of KDE processes using htop and it doesn't seem to be too hoggy. IMO

Other members and Guru's I've discussed it with have clarified it's a RAM hog.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=103943
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...-kde-lxde-xfce

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Old 05-03-2016, 08:38 AM   #17
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Are you guys sure? My KDE is using just 1.6% of 8GB of ram. My systems seems to run smoothly.

I included a snapshot of KDE processes using htop and it doesn't seem to be too hoggy. IMO
You're not measuring it correctly. You don't check one single process, you check all the processes of the DE as a whole. Your underlying system should use very little.
Just as a comparison, idling, Unity on my laptop uses ~700MB. I don't know what else you were running in the background, but if nothing else is running, 1.2/8GB is really sucky.
 
Old 05-03-2016, 10:19 AM   #18
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Just pick a popular one. Once you start running Linux, you are gonna switch between all these windows anyway. And finally you would decide which window you like the best by yourself.
 
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Old 05-03-2016, 12:24 PM   #19
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+1 on dwnthk's comment. You need to try them for yourself and see which shoe your foot fits in.
 
Old 05-19-2016, 09:44 PM   #20
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^^ Yes.

Start with GNOME and KDE; they're common for a reason.
GNOME recommends you go with Fedora on their website, probably because RedHat and GNOME are pretty close. It's enough to give you an idea of what GNOME is all about. Personally, I wouldn't stick with Fedora. Not when support for Fedora is six months and support for Ubuntu is five years with a smooth upgrade.

KDE gives you a live boot called neon which provides you with the latest version in a nicely bundled live medium. The con...well...it's KDE. Make of that what you will.
http://neon.kde.org/download

Also, I'm not a fan of the Ubuntu flavors like Xubuntu, Lubuntu...they have their place if you want Ubuntu with some other non-Unity desktop, but if you want say a stock XFCE desktop, keep moving.
 
Old 05-19-2016, 10:00 PM   #21
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Thanks. It is just kinda hard when you are new to Linux to wrap your head around all the different Distros without installing them all and trying them out. Thanks for the information.
 
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Old 05-20-2016, 02:07 PM   #22
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I think trying to explain the differences among the various desktop environments (like Gnome, KDE, Unity, XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnamon) is a losing battle. However, since most major distros (including Linux Mint) let you easily install multiple DEs, and uninstall them if you don't like them, my advice is to try one, and, if you don't particularly like it, try another, and another, and another, until you find one you do like (or, at least, live with). Having tried all seven of the listed DEs (and a few others), I'm currently settled on Mate. As for which distro offers the best experience with each desktop environment, that, again is a matter of personal preference.
 
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Old 05-22-2016, 07:42 PM   #23
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I think trying to explain the differences among the various desktop environments (like Gnome, KDE, Unity, XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnamon) is a losing battle. However, since most major distros (including Linux Mint) let you easily install multiple DEs, and uninstall them if you don't like them, my advice is to try one, and, if you don't particularly like it, try another, and another, and another, until you find one you do like (or, at least, live with). Having tried all seven of the listed DEs (and a few others), I'm currently settled on Mate. As for which distro offers the best experience with each desktop environment, that, again is a matter of personal preference.
Have you tried to uninstall GNOME? Spoiler alert: it yanks out integral parts of your system. Seems to work the same way with anything based on GNOME...this includes most every DE (not window manager, there is a difference) that is not KDE. So GNOME, MATE, Cinnamon, XFCE, LXDE, and probably others.
EDIT: And that's not even accounting for the complete and utter chaos of having GNOME, MATE, and Cinnamon installed at the same time.

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Some free advice at this point. DON'T try to ditch Gnome! If you try to remove Gnome, it can and will rip integral parts of your system out by the roots, leaving little but shredded debris and a smoking hole on your HDD! You will not have an operational system when yum gets done. For now, just leave Gnome 3 alone to stew in its own juices while you go explore your new options.
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpo...98&postcount=3

Now, with Ubuntu Snaps this could change, but that's years down the road for being mainstream, so as of now VMs are the best way to try new DEs.

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Old 05-23-2016, 09:40 AM   #24
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Have you tried to uninstall GNOME?
Yes. More than once. And I've done it for XFCE, LXDE, and Mate. For my most recent DE when testing, I just kept everything. However, when I settled on Mate, I did a clean install.

FWIW, on my current Ubuntu Mate 16.10 (dev) system, I have 20 packages installed with gnome in their names. On my Fedora Rawhide system, there are only 15 packages with gnome in their names.
 
Old 05-23-2016, 09:49 AM   #25
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Yes. More than once. And I've done it for XFCE, LXDE, and Mate. For my most recent DE when testing, I just kept everything. However, when I settled on Mate, I did a clean install.

FWIW, on my current Ubuntu Mate 16.10 (dev) system, I have 20 packages installed with gnome in their names. On my Fedora Rawhide system, there are only 15 packages with gnome in their names.
That is the key. There are lots of other GNOME programs that don't have gnome in the name. Nautilus, Baobab, Epiphany, AisleRiot, Deja Dup, Brasero, Vino, Yelp, Transmission, Remmina, Evolution, and probably more I can't even think of right now.
Last time I tried uninstalling GNOME it tried to remove EVERYTHING, and failed because it had to "skip the running kernel".
 
Old 05-25-2016, 11:30 AM   #26
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Last time I tried uninstalling GNOME it tried to remove EVERYTHING
. Been there, too. Removal is a more painful than it should be, piecemeal effort. As I should have noted in my earlier post, it's MUCH easier to just do a clean install once a decision has been made.
 
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Maybe go without systemd or other large dependency hogs, I usually just leave junk there and install more. +1 on reinstalls.
 
  


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