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Old 01-12-2006, 09:24 AM   #1
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Unhappy Newbie: Suse 10 Novell Eval Ed/manyQ's


Okay I made the migration from Win XP about a week ago (and I have been Windows free for almost a week!) I ,have managed to get around and navogate thru a lot of things already, like, getting my Dell 700m display configured correctly for 1280x800 res (using 855resolution). Also have been able to update many programs using YaST2, which is great. So far, I am happy, Suse is great! Now for the questions (I have been reading many threads here and on other firums, but do not seem to come up to the right place).

My hardware: Dell i700m (so far everything is working in SUSE)

1.I initailly thought that my res was the problem, but that I fixed. My fonts on the screen have a 'fuzzy' non-crisp border (like I am not waering my glasses to read). During the DVD installtion and online update, I was promted to install Microsoft prop fonts as well as other font packages. Unless, they have all been placed in the same fonts folder, I am unable to choose these from the drop down menu in KDE control center..appearnces..fonts. Could you help me set up fonts so that I stop hurting my eyes. Also please guide in step-by-step basis. I found most of the "hacking" helpful if it were that way, thanks.

2. I ma trying to instal Seamonkey Suite (Mozilla Suite successor) using YaST, but am unable to find it in search using 'seamonkey' as a search item. Same thing for Opera browser. I have not mastered the 'compiling from source' yet so I am chicken to downlaod tar.gz files. The main reason for not doing it this way is that I have failed most instructions on using terminal window to install .tar.gz files. I get stuck in the cd code (it says this is a path to directory, but does not chage directory). BTW I chnaged to su to do the compiling, even then no luck.

3. Okay this may sound lame: but where are programs installed in Linux: in my home or root's home??? which subfolder? How do ou uninstall programs (packages).

4. I tried chnaging to GNOME desktop, but each time, after succeful login, the screen flickers, loads the desktop with icons and background, but the task bars continue to flicker for about 5-6 times, and disappear. So i have no access to them at all. I then ctrl-Alt-Backspace to logout and login into KDE, which works fine.

5. I have made chnages to the look and feel of the desktop (apperances) How does one get the system to look like how it was when it firts booted (in its unadulterated state..default settings)

I am thoroughly enjoying SUSE so far, bwould appreciate some guidance. Sorry for the numerous questions, but thoought this would be the place for it.

SL
 
Old 01-12-2006, 10:32 AM   #2
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3.
uninstalling can be done in YasT -> software management
Or uninstalling with rpm:
Code:
rpm -e foobar
what is already installed with rpms or through YasT:
Code:
rpm -qa
is xmms installed:?
Code:
rpm -qa | grep xmms
These two are packagemanagers, another one is APT
 
Old 01-12-2006, 11:11 AM   #3
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2) Try apt (http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/).
apt is a program to install, update query and remove rpm packages. Unlike the bare rpm program, apt will try to resolve any dependencies a package may have and suggest the right ones to be installed along the target package.
After installing apt you can type something like that:

gold:~ # apt search seamonkey
seamonkey - The OpenSource version of the Netscape browser
seamonkey-calendar - Mozilla's calendar implementation
seamonkey-debuginfo - Debug information for package seamonkey
seamonkey-dom-inspector - Mozilla's DOM inspector
seamonkey-irc - IRC for Mozilla
seamonkey-mail - Mozilla's Mailclient
seamonkey-spellchecker - Spellchecker for Mozilla
seamonkey-venkman - Mozilla's JavaScript debugger
gold:~ # apt install seamonkey
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
seamonkey
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 removed and 192 not upgraded.
Need to get 9437kB of archives.
After unpacking 30.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.0-i386/suse-projects seamonkey 0.99-0 [9437kB]

3) Use the rpm's query list option:
gold:~ # rpm -ql mldonkey
/usr/bin/kill_mldonkey
/usr/bin/mlbt
/usr/bin/mldc
/usr/bin/mldonkey
/usr/bin/mlgnut
/usr/bin/mlnet
/usr/bin/mlslsk
/usr/share/applications/mldonkey.desktop
/usr/share/doc/packages/mldonkey
...
To uninstall packages, "rpm -ev mldonkey firefox opera", will uninstall several at once.

4) logout the graphical desktop, and login in text mode (CTRL-ALT-F2). Try to remove the directories ~/.gnome2 and ~/.gnome2_private (~ is a notation which means your home directory path)
$ rm -rf .gnome2 .gnome2_private
And try to log in using gnome as window manager again. Theses directories will be rebuild from scratch, hopefully removing any trash causing the bug you described.

5) Is quite the same for KDE. In this case, removing .kde directory. Attention, doing this you will lost all e-mails downloaded to your machine, all settings used by the window manager and its programs. Be carefull. Renaming .kde to .kde-old is more safe (mv .kde .kde-old).


I hope you like your new system !
 
Old 01-12-2006, 12:05 PM   #4
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Many thanks for the pointers.

Point#2:

I installed apt thru YaST. Good. Now I am in Terminal Console.
I su and now I do this,

linux:/home/user # apt search seamonkey
linux:/home/user # <blank>

Nothing happens. Just curious, what is the difference between apt and apt-get; because, when i do apt-get update, it suggested that I update sun-java 1.4.x, but after fixing it like so, apt-get update --fix-broken, then it updated packages.

So I tried this apt-get install seamonkey, this is what I get


linux:/home/user # apt-get install seamonkey
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package seamonkey

I would appreciate your help again in resolving this.
 
Old 01-12-2006, 01:31 PM   #5
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Sorry, update on Point#2:

#apt-get install opera

works fine, it installed latest opera fine.

How do I know what or how the package is named in the repository: in this case it recognized opera, but does not recognize seamonkey. I have also learnt that Unix/Linux is case-sensitive. So if ou could help me find the names of the packages, that could help a lot.
 
Old 01-12-2006, 02:03 PM   #6
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http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_Y...e_Repositories

Might well be on there, as will be lots of other stuff
 
Old 01-12-2006, 05:47 PM   #7
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Does this mean that if the package is not in the repository specified, then it will say "unble to find package". How do I tell the apt-get install where to look for the package i.e which repository to check for valid package?

Thanks,
 
Old 01-13-2006, 11:48 AM   #8
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thats if your using yast that link, but afaik any package manager will look in all possible respositorys.
 
Old 01-13-2006, 12:57 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marozsas

4) logout the graphical desktop, and login in text mode (CTRL-ALT-F2). Try to remove the directories ~/.gnome2 and ~/.gnome2_private (~ is a notation which means your home directory path)
$ rm -rf .gnome2 .gnome2_private
And try to log in using gnome as window manager again. Theses directories will be rebuild from scratch, hopefully removing any trash causing the bug you described.

I tried this, but no luck. Still gives a problem. If this helps, this error pops up" The application Netapplet has quit unexpectedly". Otherwise everything else works fine. Just that I cant access the Kicker, and thus all the control settings. Help, again will be appreciated.

The kicker flickers and then disappears. I tried to click on it when it appears briefly but it is not reactive.
 
Old 01-16-2006, 05:36 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smiley_lauf
linux:/home/user # apt search seamonkey
linux:/home/user # <blank>

Nothing happens.
I think you may need to update the apt's database, issuing the command "apt update". After that you can try search/install.

You may want to add additional repositories to the file /etc/apt/sources.list. Mine looks like:
#
# Repository created by: aptate (version 0.69.3)
# At: Tue Oct 25 13:41:01 MEST 2005
# More info about aptate at: http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net
#
rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt SuSE/10.0-i386 kde usr-local-bin rpmkeys base java update-drpm update-prpm update extra gnome mozilla openoffice samba3 suser-agirardet suser-rbos suser-crauch suser-jengelh suser-guru suser-gbv suser-tcousin suser-scorot suser-scrute suser-jogley packman packman-i686 kernel-of-the-day kraxel wine suse-people suse-projects kde3-stable kde-unstable security-prpm security
rpm-src ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt SuSE/10.0-i386 kde usr-local-bin rpmkeys base java update-drpm update-prpm update extra gnome mozilla openoffice samba3 suser-agirardet suser-rbos suser-crauch suser-jengelh suser-guru suser-gbv suser-tcousin suser-scorot suser-scrute suser-jogley packman packman-i686 kernel-of-the-day kraxel wine suse-people suse-projects kde3-stable kde-unstable security-prpm security

An up to date sources.list you can get at the apt4rpm site I told you before.

regards,
 
Old 01-16-2006, 06:33 AM   #11
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I tried this, but no luck. Still gives a problem. If this helps, this error pops up" The application Netapplet has quit unexpectedly". Otherwise everything else works fine. Just that I cant access the Kicker, and thus all the control settings. Help, again will be appreciated.
I am not a gnome expert, so I am sorry I could not provide you with a more specific and killer hint.
As last resource you may need to remove the user and home directory from the system and creating it again. And at this time, don't use netapplet again and post a bug report to the developers. Try it again at the next release.

sorry,
 
  


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