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Old 10-15-2003, 02:04 AM   #1
SoloCon
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Newbie looking for some help....


Hello everyone. This is my first post. I have NO idea what I am doing but am trying to learn. I just installed RH 9.0 about 3 days ago after deciding to run a web site from home! (IIS, whats that? )

After reading online for a bit, I download RH 9.0 from red hats page (cant post link sorry) (shrike-i386-disc1.iso shrike-i386-disc2.iso shrike-i386-disc3.iso)

I copyed all 3 into 3 different CDR's. Booted off CD 1 to do an install. (I clicked to install "EVERYTHING")

After about an hour and 30 min, it said it was finished. A display came up (something like windows I guess) and thats where it stands.

Everything is a little different but I will stick with it! Frist thing I tried to do was surf the net. I ran into a problem.

Only thing is, I dont know what the problem is


I click on mozilla to surf to yahoo. com, I get an error that says something about cant find the name yahoo.com. (again, sorry but I cant post links yet)

I dont know if its the network card drivers or what. So I will post my settings here....


MIS K7N2 Motherboard. (MS-6570)
(onboard Video/sound/USB/Network card ect... all but the video card)
Video Card: nvidia G4 4200
80 gig HD
I am also using a Linksys BEFN2PS4 router.

I dont know if its my router or my network card thats having the issue.

Also, I have NO idea how to use Linux at this point but I did win a bid on Ebay for a book on RH 9.0. ($25.97)

I wont give up on the OS. I just thought I would post here while I would try it all out.

I did DL a driver for my network card (I think its for my net card?) from here
nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0256 .html (w w w infromt of it. not being able to post links sucks for me!


I installed them (I think, again, I dont know how to install anything)


From here, I am lost!

If anyone can help me with this problem and/or inform me on some good info about this OS (still waiting on my book) it would help a lot. Thanks for your time!
 
Old 10-15-2003, 02:19 AM   #2
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There are a few options here..

1) Your DNS is not resolving, because of this when you type www.yahoo.com it doesn't change that to the IP address and initiate a connection to it. One way of testing this is to try to connect to the following IP 81.91.107.107 (just type that in to the mozilla address bar)

If that works, it is simply a DNS issue. You will need to contact your ISP for their DNS server addresses.


2) Your network card is not configured.

Can you provide the output of the following command;

/sbin/ifconfig

3) What process did you undergo to "install" the nforce driver ?


I'll post back when i have read through your reply...
 
Old 10-15-2003, 02:21 AM   #3
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As a newbie(like me), I suggest not trying to check for errors occurring in installation.. hehe.
When a distro didn't work for me(errors and/or things were too advanced for me), I simply tried another distro or, if some installation failed, I installed it again. If you are a complete newbie, I suggest taking one of the most well-known distributions to install, and then if something fails, search for the error on a search engine. People often have the same error as you!

At first I tried Mandrake, my brother who knows linnux very well installed it for me but after a while it started crashing - so I installed windows instead. And then I installed MDK(not saying one is better than the other!) and it was a bit simpler to use - and after some councelling on the web(just searching on questions, not asking myself... quicker that way) I got it to work! First I installed MDK on my laptop which was a bit more complicated than a stationary - some troubles with the PCMIA cards and such.. also with gfx card and monitor. But after some re-install trial-and-erroring, it came to work and I had learnt a bit more in linux! then I started installing on stationaries, and then I tried another distro called Vector Linux on my laptop which runs all ok. And here is where I am today!

Be into pluralism, it's no use being into anything else!
 
Old 10-15-2003, 02:43 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally posted by flashtek_uk
There are a few options here..

1) Your DNS is not resolving, because of this when you type www.yahoo.com it doesn't change that to the IP address and initiate a connection to it. One way of testing this is to try to connect to the following IP 81.91.107.107 (just type that in to the mozilla address bar)

If that works, it is simply a DNS issue. You will need to contact your ISP for their DNS server addresses.


2) Your network card is not configured.

Can you provide the output of the following command;

/sbin/ifconfig

3) What process did you undergo to "install" the nforce driver ?


I'll post back when i have read through your reply...


1) when I entered the IP into mozilla, I get another error (the connection was refused)

2) I have no idea how to view the file. (infact, I just found out how to get to it) I did the following...
I went to "roots home" then in location, I typed /sbin
I then seen the file ifconfig, I right clicked it and chose open in new window. Nothing happened! I then double clicked on it (windows??) and still, nothing happened.


3) I just double clicked on the file. ( have 2 computers (one running windows) coped the file onto a floppy, mounted the floppy (took me about 2 hours to find out how to do that) and placed it on my" desktop?" I then double clicked on the file. Thats was all I did.
 
Old 10-15-2003, 03:39 AM   #5
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am I doing something wrong?
 
Old 10-15-2003, 04:05 AM   #6
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Doing somthing wrong ? Probablyu my fault for not being clear on what i wanted...

1) Log in to linux as root
2) Open a console (RedHat menu, Run a command, type in "xterm" (without the quotes) )
3) Type in "/sbin/ifconfig" (again without quotes)
4) Note down what gets printed out to the screen...
5) Come back here and type it in....


Bit of a learning curve with linux eh ? ;-) Mine started out 7 years ago and i am still learning little things every time i use it...

Talk soon
 
Old 10-15-2003, 04:19 AM   #7
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You need to type in the command in a terminal. I'm not sure on Redhat since I use Mandrake. Look in the menus for something like Konsole or console and open it. You may also need to switch to root by typing

Code:
su -
Then the password for root. Then try the command again.

You may need to note that a lot, actually most, commands have to be run this way. A little different than windows. That command probably tried to run, it just didn't have anywhere to display what it returned including the error message if any.

It sounds like you have not set up your internet connection. You may have a control center that can help you. I have not used or seen Redhat so I can't be of much more help. Sorry Wish I could help more.

Keep posting and we'll help you get it going.



Oh, welcome to the world of Linux. With time it will grow on you. Stick like glue sometimes.
 
Old 10-15-2003, 05:06 AM   #8
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you can configure the network by
#redhat-config-network

if you use dhcp tick dhcp...
else enter the rest info
and restart the service

#service network restart

#ifup eth0

now try to browse ....
if not post the errors that occured
(if you have a non dial up ip the manually enter it in the network configuration)
 
Old 10-15-2003, 12:40 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by flashtek_uk
Doing somthing wrong ? Probablyu my fault for not being clear on what i wanted...

1) Log in to linux as root
2) Open a console (RedHat menu, Run a command, type in "xterm" (without the quotes) )
3) Type in "/sbin/ifconfig" (again without quotes)
4) Note down what gets printed out to the screen...
5) Come back here and type it in....


Bit of a learning curve with linux eh ? ;-) Mine started out 7 years ago and i am still learning little things every time i use it...

Talk soon


I get this....

lo Link encap: Local Loopback
Inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
Up loopback running mtu: 16436 metric:1
RX packets: 271723 error:0 droped: 0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisi:0 Txqueuelen:0
RX Bytes: 18637083 (17.7 mb) TX Bytes: 18637083 (17.7 mb)



Quote:
You need to type in the command in a terminal. I'm not sure on Redhat since I use Mandrake. Look in the menus for something like Konsole or console and open it. You may also need to switch to root by typing
code: su -


Then the password for root. Then try the command again.

You may need to note that a lot, actually most, commands have to be run this way. A little different than windows. That command probably tried to run, it just didn't have anywhere to display what it returned including the error message if any.

It sounds like you have not set up your internet connection. You may have a control center that can help you. I have not used or seen Redhat so I can't be of much more help. Sorry Wish I could help more.

Keep posting and we'll help you get it going.



Oh, welcome to the world of Linux. With time it will grow on you. Stick like glue sometimes.

I am lost on what you said. I am logged on as root by default I think (user is root) (then my root pass)

I log into the system and get something that looks like windows? (sorry, dont know what its called)


Quote:
you can configure the network by
#redhat-config-network

if you use dhcp tick dhcp...
else enter the rest info
and restart the service

#service network restart

#ifup eth0

now try to browse ....
if not post the errors that occured
(if you have a non dial up ip the manually enter it in the network configuration)


I guess your talking about using them commands from the command line? (Where I run xtream)?? I have not ran these commands yet as I was not for sure how to. I am running a router (to a total of 2 computer) and would like the router to give an IP (192.xxx.xxx.xxx or what ever is default)


Again, TY very much for everyones times!

Last edited by SoloCon; 10-15-2003 at 12:42 PM.
 
Old 10-15-2003, 12:53 PM   #10
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In KDE, click the go button (by default it is a 'k', red hat may have changed it to a hat or something), or rightclick the desktop. A menu will pop up, and then you click 'Run Command'. You can enter commands/programs here (such as 'xterm'). There is an 'Options' button, and when this is clicked it shows several more useful options. You may be able to find a link(s) for various terminal emulators (such as xterm) in the 'K' menu.
 
Old 10-15-2003, 03:14 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by aaa
In KDE, click the go button (by default it is a 'k', red hat may have changed it to a hat or something), or rightclick the desktop. A menu will pop up, and then you click 'Run Command'. You can enter commands/programs here (such as 'xterm'). There is an 'Options' button, and when this is clicked it shows several more useful options. You may be able to find a link(s) for various terminal emulators (such as xterm) in the 'K' menu.


What do you mean by "terminal emulators?" Is this something I should be looking for or setting up?
 
Old 10-15-2003, 04:39 PM   #12
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I think he's talking about a terminal or console, kind of same thing.

Click on the start thingy and look for terminals and then console or konsole. A lot of things are actually easier to setup in command line than in a GUI. That's not always true but usually.

Hope that helps. Don't know much more on that one.

Later

 
Old 10-15-2003, 04:52 PM   #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by dalek
I think he's talking about a terminal or console, kind of same thing.

Click on the start thingy and look for terminals and then console or konsole. A lot of things are actually easier to setup in command line than in a GUI. That's not always true but usually.

Hope that helps. Don't know much more on that one.

Later



Sorry if this is a noob question, but is this what I am looking for to set up my network so I can access the net?
 
Old 10-15-2003, 05:49 PM   #14
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When you find the console, terminal whatever you want to call it, type in

Code:
/sbin/ifconfig
Then write down what ever it prints after that and post it here for us to look at. Hopefully someone will be able to see what is wrong and how to correct the problem or get it set up if it is not.

This is not that you have done something wrong. Sometimes things just work and sometimes you have to help it along a bit. We will help you to help it along.

Yes this will help get you on the net. Just hang in there. flashtek_uk seems to have done this before. He just needs to know where your system stands at the moment so he will know where to start. You may be just one or two commands away from surfing or it may need setting up from the start.

While you seem to be new at this and need to get a understanding of what is going on, try this link.

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/

Download some of those manuals and read over then. You may even find the console, terminal whatever while you read over those. If you are going to use Linux you need to read them anyway. You don't need to understand all of it though. Just kind of get to a point where you can find what you need to get your net up and running. Rest will take time.

You but NO . It'll work.

Back later.

 
Old 10-15-2003, 05:56 PM   #15
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Ok, now the "lo" details tell me that you have only local networking running, you will need to have the ethernet networking setup too;

Click on the RedHat icon (the system you are using is called X Windows)
Click on Run Command
Type in "xterm"
Within the window that shows up type in "redhat-config-network-druid"
Add an Ethernet device with the IP address etc set as required

Once you have finished in that application re-run the "/sbin/ifconfig" application and post the output of that. You _should_ have the entry above (lo) and a new one called "eth0" with all of your IP address settings.

Post back if you need any further help.. or indeed if it works for you...
 
  


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