LinuxQuestions.org
Latest LQ Deal: Linux Power User Bundle
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 06-10-2006, 11:27 PM   #1
Johnny Faster
Member
 
Registered: May 2006
Location: Texas
Distribution: Ubuntu 6.06
Posts: 56

Rep: Reputation: 15
Newb has Problems Partitioning with Ubuntu 6.06


In case anyone is interested, some background on my situation can be found here.

The situation has evolved to the point where I think I need to post a new thread here for help. To recap, I tried to install Ubuntu 5.10 on my 250 Gbyte SATA and it failed at the point where it needed to recognize my CD-Drive (a BenQ 1640). So I d/l-ed Ubuntu 6.06, burned to a CD-RW using Nero and the BenQ and tried to install this afternoon.

Everything went well until the partitioning. I only want to dedicate 40 Gbyte of my 250 Gbyte SATA to Ubuntu, and manually selected this. But the partitioning process stalled at this point. It suspect it is because, although I (think) I was able to configure the size of the partition, I didn't know what to do about the swap file space, /home (which I read somewhere was optional and useful, and maybe other things I don't know about.

There's not really any "help" for you when it comes time to start cutting nuts.

Also on the thread (link above) someone mentions that there is a known bug with Ubuntu 6.06 destroying NTFS file paritions. My system (seems to have) survived, but I need help before I experiment again.

Is it obvious to someone that knows what they are doing where I went wrong ? Or is there a problem with Ubuntu 6.06 ?

The person mentioned above managed to sucessfully install Ubuntu 6.06 by partitioning his drive himself using Partion Magic. I've never partitioned a drive before, but could learn. But then the whole point of trying Ubuntu as a first-time Linux User was because Ubuntu was supposed to do that for you. So, if I need to do my own partitioning, should I change my Distro to something else, such as pclinuxOS ?

Thanks in advance,

Johnny
 
Old 06-10-2006, 11:44 PM   #2
tuxrules
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Distribution: Slackware64 -current
Posts: 1,144

Rep: Reputation: 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Faster
Everything went well until the partitioning. I only want to dedicate 40 Gbyte of my 250 Gbyte SATA to Ubuntu, and manually selected this. But the partitioning process stalled at this point. It suspect it is because, although I (think) I was able to configure the size of the partition, I didn't know what to do about the swap file space, /home (which I read somewhere was optional and useful, and maybe other things I don't know about.
Partitioning is very easy with Ubuntu. What you want to do is set aside 40 GB space for root or / partition. Regarding swap, the old thumb rule is twice the physical RAM but that rule is outdated. I have 1 GB RAM and I use 1 GB Swap just to be on the safe side (not that my swap is used a lot...infact it is hardly used). Depending upon your RAM, you can set aside swap anywhere between 512 MB to 1 GB. For the rest of the space, I recommend you dedicate it to /home.

Since all user files remain /home, if you ever had to remove ubuntu and install anything else, you can just remove the root partition and then mount /home in the new OS...that way you get to keep all your files.

Tux,
 
Old 06-11-2006, 12:07 AM   #3
syg00
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Australia
Distribution: Lots ...
Posts: 14,848

Rep: Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823Reputation: 1823
Seems there are problems with Dapper partitioning - seen plenty of threads over the last few weeks. Doing the partitioning in advance seems the answer.
I did an update from Breezy to Dapper yesterday and it went fine, but of course I already had a working partition setup.

Personally, I'd say if you don't feel confident in the installer (any installer), use something else.
A decent set of backups before you start playing would be sensible, regardless of what you decide to go with.
 
Old 06-11-2006, 12:54 AM   #4
Cogar
Senior Member
 
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: It varies, but usually within 100 feet of a keyboard.
Distribution: Fedora 10, Kubuntu 8.04, Puppy 4.1.2, openSUSE 11.2
Posts: 1,126

Rep: Reputation: 51
I used the partitioner in Ubuntu 5.10 (not Dapper) in several situations with good and predictable results. This included resizing Windows (NTFS and FAT 32) partitions that were using the entire drive.

Although there is a lot of discussion regarding the value of separate partitions for /home and so forth, I think it is best to keep things simple for people that are new. Create one partition for / and a small one for swap--that's it. You can get fancy later. For anyone who wants to learn more, I strongly suggest reading the partitioning section in Slackware Linux Essentials located here:
http://www.slackbook.org/html/index.html

Let me add a comment that may not apply in many cases. I have the feeling that some of the people installing Linux have never previously installed an operating system of any type--including Windows. For those people, of course the learning curve will appear a little steep. Further, you cannot easily shrink an existing Windows partition to a size smaller than it occupies. I know that may sound like a trivial or silly statement, but it is one that a few people overlook.

FWIW, I have also installed both Ubuntu and Kubuntu Dapper--both using the "alternate" version--but only installed them in existing partitions and therefore did not really use the partitioning tool, so I cannot comment there. The tools does look the same as the one in Breezy though, so I really do not understand the problem.
 
Old 06-11-2006, 02:11 AM   #5
Johnny Faster
Member
 
Registered: May 2006
Location: Texas
Distribution: Ubuntu 6.06
Posts: 56

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Success !

Quote:
Partitioning is very easy with Ubuntu.
This comment (read earlier tonight) made me feel stupid and cowardly, so I went back and tried again. This time I just let Ubuntu do the partitioning automatically.

Worked flawlessly.

Partitioning may be "easy" with Ubuntu, but manual partitioning is very complicated and completely non-intuitive and should never under any circumstances be done by a first-time newb.

Automatic partitioning with Ubuntu was easy.

Anyways, I am on the road with Linux and am playing with the apps now. Thanks for the kick in the pants.


Johnny
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ubuntu NewB ragjaws LinuxQuestions.org Member Intro 2 01-20-2006 12:17 PM
ubuntu newb is asking for help pigmelt Ubuntu 4 10-04-2005 09:13 PM
Installing aMSN on Ubuntu... (big newb) shaunfowler2005 Linux - Software 9 02-28-2005 03:38 AM
Ubuntu Partitioning pragun Linux - Newbie 2 12-22-2004 02:14 AM
Extreme Newb to Partitioning & Linux. betamonk Linux - Newbie 16 12-11-2003 08:26 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:16 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration