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Old 05-04-2006, 02:46 AM   #1
Narev
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New to site, and new to SuSE 10


Hi,
First post here, I have been trying to mess with Linux for years (I think I have an old distro of RedHat 4 or something from years ago) but always found it too hard. One day in the store I felt brave again, and went looking for Linux in Best Buy, all they had was this SuSE, one I had never heard of before. I also bought Partition magic as I anticipated needing to split my Windows partition and thought it would be a battle. To my surprise SuSE made my partitions and installed just fine, it autodetected most everything, and my internet even worked on my first boot. I had never gotten this far before. I began to look for graphics drivers to see what games I could run. I have an ATI Radeon 9800, so I went over to ATI's site and found an installer program... Nice and easy, I like that. It took me a while to figure out what to do, but I went into the Super User terminal. I found myself in a different directory (root?) and could see no way to find my main user's home directory (Narev). I used my newly learned wget command and downloaded another copy of the installer to where I was. Following the instructions on the ATI site, I entered "sh ati-drivers-installer-8.24.8-x86.run" and up came a pretty GUI. I selected "automatic install" and a bunch of stuff happened. Then it said I needed to run "aticonfig" which I did. It also said something about being sure to save my XWindows config file? So I ran "aticonfig --basic" or something like that, there were a ton of commands I didn't want to mess with just yet. I couldn't find how to save that file, but there was a "Save Settings" option for when I restarted the comp, perhaps that was it? I clicked that and restarted. Now, I had found a program called Cedega which claims to be a shell that would allow me to run windows games (It has a subscription fee , I may be getting ripped off). Cedega has a thing to test my 3D graphics capability, but it failed just like the other times. I then tried to install BitchX following the instructions on their site which were as follows:
$ wget www(dot)bitchx(dot)com/ircii-pana-1.1-final.tar.gz
$ tar xvfz ircii-pana-1.1-final.tar.gz
$ cd BitchX
$ ./configure
$ gmake
$ gmake install_local
Turned out I didn't have gcc, so I whipped out my SuSE DVD and installed att the gcc related stuff. I got farther with ./configure the second time, but it said some things were missing and I ultimately couldn't do gmake. I want to understand what I am doing when I type those things (I know I am compiling the program, but what are the things it needs and why?) I thought about using an RPM, but now I understand an RPM not specifically for my SuSE might not work? Also on my wish list is a driver to let me use the back and forward buttons on my mouse within Firefox, but I could live without that. If you can reccomend any books that would be a help, I'd like that. I have SUSE 10 for Dummies, but it's not quite technical enough for my tastes (They spend time explaining what e-mail is for god's sake) and an older book called "Linux in a nutshell" that I haven't spent much time with. Then there's the SuSE manual. I would very much like to make friends in the Linux community that I can learn from. I long for the day (if it ever comes) when I can discard Windows for good and still play my favorite games!

-Narev
 
Old 05-04-2006, 03:27 AM   #2
reddazz
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Linux can take a while to pick up because there is lots of stuff to learn but its not really difficult if you put in some time and effort. For learning Suse, I would urge you to get a copy of a book called Beginning Suse Linux, From Novice To Professional or The Suse Linux 10 Bible. Most of the basics you will learn, will also work on other distros. other books that maybe helpful (and are free to download or read online) are RuTE and The Linux Cookbook. For learning linux commands, take a look at http://www.linuxcommand.org.

For software management, take a look at this page in the LQ Wiki. If you have problems with individual packages, search for possible solutions or post any questions in the Suse forum on this site. You can also read the documentation on the OpenSuse website. You are righ that most rpms not meant for Suse may not install or work properly on Suse. Suse has many third party software repositories and there is a sticky thread (titled "OpenSuse YAST Repositories") in the Suse forum that will help you set them up.

You are not being ripped of by Cedega. They operate a subscription model which you can cancel after a certain period of time.
 
  


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