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Old 03-19-2006, 07:05 AM   #1
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New to linux


Hi, I am quite new to linux, i have installed it many times but just give up afterwards beacuse its too hard.

I used to just partition my hard drive but i though i might buy another hard drive, i.e a 20 or 30 gig one to install linux and windows xp on then use my current one in either fat32 or ntfs format for linux and windows to share as a data disk, does that sound visable?

which hard drive would i install the swap space bit for linux?

Thanks

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Old 03-19-2006, 07:18 AM   #2
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Which was too hard? Installing? Using?

With two drives, I would put both OSes on one, and data on the other. FAT32 for the data partition to make it easy to share between Windows and Linux.

Size of drives:
I'm not sure you can buy anything smaller thatn 40GB--but regardless, I would make the new drive AT LEAST 80GB (~$50 at Newegg--and the 40GB drives are almost the same!!)
How big is your current drive?
 
Old 03-19-2006, 01:30 PM   #3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gflo
which hard drive would i install the swap space bit for linux?
I use the rule of "not on the same HD as the OS" both for windows and linux,
example:
I got 2 HD's 1st HD with 60GB and 2nd with 80GB, I got it partition like that:
hda:
hda1 30GB Windows Xp
hda2 20GB Slackware
hda3 10GB Testing (I use it to test distro's I want to try)
hdb:
hdb1 70MB Boot
hdb2 2GB Swap (most ppl don't need so much swap)
hdb3 4GB Windows PageFile
hdb4 All the rest Shared partition where I hold stuff I want to share (music, doc's, programs, config files).
I hope that helps.
 
Old 03-19-2006, 01:55 PM   #4
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I use the rule of "not on the same HD as the OS" both for windows and linux,
(said in re where to put swap)

Why? Is this similar to the logic for Adobe recommending scratch space in a different physical drive?
 
Old 03-20-2006, 02:10 PM   #5
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we'll i have a 160gb drive already.
I would look at buying say another hard drive
probably from a computer market because there really cheap
say like a 40gb one for 10 or something.

All i want to know is how to go about setting them up,
i have a rough idea but you guys always seem to know better.

Also i find using linux in genral dificult, like getting wireless to work and i guess i just need to learn. I got a load of books that im reading at the moment, teaching me how to use certain commands and stuff.

Thanks

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Old 03-20-2006, 03:00 PM   #6
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OK--2 drives:

#1 40GB (or larger): 2 OSes + associated applications (20GB each)
#2 160GB shared data, formatted FAT32

Steps:
Backup--eg to an external HD
Install Windows in 20GB partition--leaving the rest of #1 empty (unpartitioned)
Install Linux in the remaining space on HD#1--the Linux installer will take care of making the necssary partitions.
As part of the Linux install, it will ask you where to put the boot loader. I suggest a floppy--this way, Winodws in not disturbed. (You can always put the boot loaser on HD later.
Finally, format the 160GB FAT32--you can then link to it form either Windows or Linux.

Note--Backup: I you copy your data to an external HD, and then format the 160GB HD, you will---for a few minutes---have your data only in one place. IF the data is really valuable, then consider ALSO doing a CD or DVD backup before re-formatting the 2nd HD.
 
Old 03-20-2006, 03:12 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by pixellany
(said in re where to put swap)

Why? Is this similar to the logic for Adobe recommending scratch space in a different physical drive?
Yes it's the same, I read in more than few places on how it speedup the use and make the OS use the swap/pf better.
 
Old 03-21-2006, 11:16 AM   #8
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swap partion

cool. well i have a rough idea of what to do.

Still where do i install the swap part for linux? hd 1 or hd 2?
 
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As I said few post before in different HD than your linux install.
 
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As I said few post before in different HD than your linux install.
You can combine this advice with the steps that I outlined and it will work fine. Put the swap area at the beginning of drive 2, and then partition the rest FAT32
 
Old 03-22-2006, 03:16 AM   #11
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Thanks

Thanks you guys.

i know now what i nned to know.

you can look put for me in other post grubbling about
wireless!!

thanks guys
Cyaz
 
  


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