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Old 12-12-2004, 05:18 PM   #1
mrdany
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new to linux


hello,

this is my first day to linux...
i have always used MS clients and servers, and i want to switch to the opensource world...

i have successfully installed mandrake 10.0 on my hp nx9010 laptop... (under vmware 4.5)

i need to know the learn the basic concepts of linux...
like how to install programs, what are the file types and their meanings, what is the difference between the many linux that exist (redhat, suse, mandrake, slackware...) which are good for clients? and which are good for servers? am talking about webservers (php_) or database servers (sybase, oracle or mysql), or even just local intranet file servers...

i am also a programmer. but am completely new to linux... i have a small notion of unix commands which i took like 10 years ago when i was at college.

any suggestions are welcome...

Cheers,

Dan
 
Old 12-12-2004, 05:23 PM   #2
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www.google.com
 
Old 12-12-2004, 05:27 PM   #3
mrdany
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lol
i feel ashamed by your reply ror

i did try google... but i wanted some experts to give me their point of view...
anyways, thanks for your frank answer..

Cheers,

Dan
 
Old 12-12-2004, 05:33 PM   #4
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I will not be rude if I say RTFM. Because for Linux user it is a root, base, parentage, knowledge and so on
So my recommendation to you is
1. of course www.google.com
2. man pages are included in Linux
I extrapolate: man is shortening of manual.
accessed by console, for example
#man sudo
#man ftp
and so on
3. Books of O'Reilly
 
Old 12-12-2004, 05:36 PM   #5
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O, yes. Almost forgot. do not hesitate to ask if you find youself in trouble. Trouble I mean by hopelessly stuck
 
Old 12-12-2004, 05:40 PM   #6
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Re: new to linux

Quote:
Originally posted by mrdany
hello,

this is my first day to linux...
i have always used MS clients and servers, and i want to switch to the opensource world...

i have successfully installed mandrake 10.0 on my hp nx9010 laptop... (under vmware 4.5)

i need to know the learn the basic concepts of linux...
like how to install programs, what are the file types and their meanings, what is the difference between the many linux that exist (redhat, suse, mandrake, slackware...) which are good for clients? and which are good for servers? am talking about webservers (php_) or database servers (sybase, oracle or mysql), or even just local intranet file servers...

i am also a programmer. but am completely new to linux... i have a small notion of unix commands which i took like 10 years ago when i was at college.

any suggestions are welcome...

Cheers,

Dan
Picking a distro is a matter of opinion. Might I suggest Slackware for your server needs. (I use Slack on mine.)

http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz
-This has a wealth of information on Linux. I'm still not done with it.

I noticed you use Mandrake. Back in my Mandrake days, I used this site often. In my experience most of the users there were very helpful & polite.

Like SlackerLX said, don't heisitate to ask questions here, too!
 
Old 12-12-2004, 05:46 PM   #7
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Could not agree more with Ninja
As a heavy slackware user I would recommend it too.
But on the other hand, Ninja, he must come to Slack himself through pain and research. Mandrake was my first too.
If he stays with open source he'll eventually come to it, but for now, perhaps it is a good choice for a
 
Old 12-12-2004, 05:51 PM   #8
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Google and Man pages can help a lot and so does books. And like everything else, the best way to learn is the hardway. But sometime there is no need to go through the hardway when there is a quick answer. So we go to those who are so called 'experts' for some direction just to be told to google.

Sorry, I just had to write this b/c I could not get any answer for my previous post
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=265623

-C
 
Old 12-12-2004, 05:52 PM   #9
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Stupid me!! Shame!

Welcome to Open Source where no windows and no gates!
 
Old 12-12-2004, 07:36 PM   #10
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http://www.slackware.com/book helps answer a lot of initial questions quickly too.

I also recommend slackware.
 
Old 12-12-2004, 10:04 PM   #11
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To answer your many questions, to see the difference in distros, try a visit to DistroWatch, where you can view all the distros side-by-side, compare, read reviews, and etc. As for commands in Mandrake, try Mandrake Tips or the official online documentation from Mandrake..

Best of luck.
 
Old 12-13-2004, 07:23 AM   #12
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mrdany

I don't think just changing to slackware will improve your knowledge, so I am not sure if you have received any useful help so far. Slackware is undoubtedly good, but it isn't a solution to not knowing where to start learning

I found Sobel's "A Practical Guide to Unix System V" very helpfull when I started using Linux, despite it being Unix rather than Linux focussed - good basic command instruction, a quick but useful tutorial on vi, and a description of the file system "standards". It will give you a feel for the basics, but also a feel for how much you need to learn, simply because of what it does not cover!

There are a very large number of books available, and a lot of HOWTOs, which makes learning difficult - a swamp of information....

The Linix Documentation Project (tdlp.org) has a lot of good doco, but I think you may be swamped by volume.

You have to start somewhere, so I suggest you get one or two books, start reading and practising and see where it takes you. Dive in! You won't drown if you keep trying!

best wishes

Jim
 
Old 12-13-2004, 09:50 AM   #13
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I, for some reason, believe that we've been talking among ourselves, guys. mrdany is not in forums anymore. at least he doesn't check in
 
  


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