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Old 06-12-2006, 03:02 AM   #16
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do you know someone who has a college ID ?

give them 5.95 and tell them to go to the bookstore and get a student issued copy of XP sp2...and they'll come back in 20 mins if you really despise linux that much.
 
Old 06-12-2006, 03:42 AM   #17
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I used Ubuntu first then I switched to Fedora 4 for a while. I liked Fedora 4 a lot though I liked the package management of Ubuntu more than fedoras. There's a guy that manages www.fedorafaq.org and that site really helped getting me up and running with fedora. From what I can glean from your questions, I'd say that if you can get up and running in the distro you have now... then use it to learn more before you dive in too deep. That's how I got wet with linux. Once you know what you're doing you'll be super confident about using linux... trust me.

Also, that fedora site has a little howto on how to get java working in your browser... just make sure you have the right fedora selected at the top of the page.

Good luck
 
Old 06-12-2006, 06:26 AM   #18
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Ubuntu

As a fellow noob I can tell you that ubuntu is a very good choice for your needs. When I installed it everything was configured for me. I just had to answer a few questions and I was ready to go. The thing I like the most is the package manager (think windows update). It basically configures your downloaded files for you. Since I don't know how to burn a cd with the os you have now (fedora?) I think your best bet is to buy one from the many places advertised on Linux sites.
 
Old 06-12-2006, 07:02 AM   #19
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Pay for XP? what an odd concept :P

If you stick with Linux you will see the benefits, and feel better for getting it all working, i tested runescape the other day on Arch, in firefox with java installed, it worked fine.


make sure you go into BIOS (hit del at start up) set the first boot device to be CD Rom, what do you get after that?
 
Old 06-12-2006, 08:49 AM   #20
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As mcmillan mentioned in an earlier post, the first thing you need to understand is that Linux is not Windows. There is going to be a learning curve and you're going to have to learn something about a computer. If you're willing to take the time and learn, Linux will work for you. If not, then start saving your money and buy XP.

mcmillan also said after about a year he/she was frustrated with his/her Windows at work. Don't take this to mean that it'll take you a year to get up to speed with Linux. A month or two and you'll be comfortable.

There are many distributions of Linux to choose from. Keep trying until you find the one that "fits" you. Fedora Core 4 is fine for a newbie, so is Ubuntu, so are many others. Install one, stick with it for a month or two and get to know Linux a little. After that, you can install other Linux distros to try them out without removing your original.

As far as your Java problem, the links you've been given have the solution. I installed Java on a Fedora Core 4 machine following the directions on Sun's website (afterwards I found out that wasn't preferred). I haven't had any problems and Runescape works.

To burn an .iso properly, you need to select "Make a CD image" as your project type. Fedora comes with K3b for burning CDs. It'll be on your menu under multimedia. The icon is a red box with some white letters that you can't read. I like to user RW CDs so I don't have to sh*t can the stuff I find I don't like.

Learn to use yum if you stick with Fedora. It is the package manager and will resolve dependencies for anything you want to install. There's a GUI for it called yumex if you don't like the command line, but how hard is to type,
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yum install packageIwant
Fedora uses the GNOME desktop by default. Try KDE if you're not using it already. You might find it more Windows-like. If you didn't install KDE when you installed Fedora, go to add/remove software in the menu and install it. Then when you're at the login screen, click on session and select KDE before you login.

One last thing, be prepared to break your installation few times during the first couple of months. If you're agressively learning Linux, you'll hose something up. Fixing it is the best way to learn though!
 
Old 06-12-2006, 09:52 AM   #21
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One problem at a time!!!!

In Fedora (Gnome), you right-click on an .iso image and select "burn to CD".

To check what is on the CD, just insert it. Something will appear on the desktop---an icon if the CD has something on it, maybe a dialog if it is blank.

When you encounter a problem in either Fedora or Ubuntu, stay with it. Trying to solve specific issues by changing distributions is going to frustrate you pretty quickly. ie, learn how to get java going on Fedora.
 
Old 06-12-2006, 10:39 AM   #22
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After a good night's sleep, I think I'm ready to give this another go. I'm finding that the Fedora Project site is a help, but the only problem is I don't know how to select which Fedora I am running. I will stick with this Java problem until I have it; I decided I am not giving up on this. As for the burning the ISO image, it hasn't been going well, and I'm going to stick with Fedora. When I try to use it with the boot options, all I get is it prompting me to retry it. So, meh.

Thanks guys, and I'll do my best. You have put some hope in me. =)
 
Old 06-12-2006, 11:37 AM   #23
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Okay, I've nearly fixed my java problem, I just do not know how to move /home/nomgis0/plugin_stack.trace to the file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/

Please help, I'm so close.
 
Old 06-12-2006, 11:39 AM   #24
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Oh, man. It didn't work. I don't know what to do now. I moved it there successfully with the terminal, but it didn't do anything...=\ I just want this java. And I wish I knew how to put my MP3 files into my music folder, because this stuff is frustrating but even worse without music ='S
 
Old 06-12-2006, 01:01 PM   #25
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Okay, I've nearly fixed my java problem, I just do not know how to move /home/nomgis0/plugin_stack.trace to the file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
What directions are you following to install Java? This "/home/nomgis0/plugin_stack.trace" does not look familiar from any Java install instructions I've seen. It may not be working because you may not be following the directions.
 
Old 06-12-2006, 01:06 PM   #26
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If you're trying to install the Java plugin for your browser, you should be making a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your plugins directory.
 
Old 06-12-2006, 01:46 PM   #27
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I have fully and correctly followed the directions on three different sites, including the Java one. That's when I decided to try moving a file that was made during the pseudo installation into that file, which I successfully did, but it did not do anything. As for the symbolic link, one of the things that I did actually made one of those, but that didn't work either. I'm so frustrated at the moment, I've been working on this Java problem for about five or six hours total now, all to no avail. I don't understand why it has to be this complicated...

I realize it isn't Windows, and I realize it isn't going to be as user friendly, but this is just kind of downright user torture.
 
Old 06-12-2006, 01:53 PM   #28
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If you're using Firefox, I had to create a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in its plugin directory as well before it worked.

Find your firefox directory. An example of the command is below with the first few lines of output.

sandbox:/# find /usr/lib/ -iname 'firefox*'
/usr/lib/firefox-1.0.4
/usr/lib/firefox-1.0.4/firefox

Then find out if there is a directory called plugins. An example of the command is below with part of the output. Note the d at the very beginning of the output line. This means plugins is a directory. On my system, all directories are also shown in blue, but the color may be different for yours.

sandbox:/# ls -l /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 24 23:42 plugins

If you see that you have a directory named plugins, you're golden. Change to the plugins directory (see below) and finish following Sun's directions.

sandbox:/# cd /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.4/plugins
sandbox:/usr/lib/firefox-1.0.4/plugins#
 
Old 06-12-2006, 03:41 PM   #29
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you can also order a free copy of ubuntu orKubuntu from ubuntu completely free of charge,. It may take a few weeks to arrive as I am guessing there is quite a bit of backlog with the amount of orders they are sure to ahve recieved.

Here are instructions from the ubuntu site for nurning the iso files

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHo...ight=%28iso%29

to order ubuntu for free use this link
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/

to order kubuntu for free use this link
https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
 
Old 06-12-2006, 07:27 PM   #30
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I have tried every method that has been posted here, I have tried numerous sites, and many other things. I have a copy of Ubuntu being mailed to me, but I fear that by then I will have bought XP...This was nice experimenting with Linux and all, but it's just all too much for me to handle; I miss Windows and it's ease of use. Thank you everyone for your help, I just can't take the complexity of this anymore.


-Nomgis0
 
  


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