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Old 08-29-2006, 07:51 PM   #1
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Exclamation New Mandriva ODIN b not allow new /, reformats swap, /, home Suse 10.1 parts


Attempting 2nd Linux distro-25 GB free space. During a normal appearing *
install from recent DVD iso, DrakX Partitioning wizard wants to reformat my existing Suse partitions, it lists all NTFS OK w/o change [Use existing].

In custom partitioning when I select `Free Space' for install, Create, I do not have a / option!
Default offered is Journalized FS ReiserFS, which only offers boot, /mnt/windows, /opt, /tmp, /usr, /usr/local, /var, /var/ftp, /var/ww.
Other FS options; ext3, XFS, JFS, FAT32 all of which still have the same 9 mount point choices.

I was under the impression each distribution required a / , but could share swap, /home [(if different user name used/distro (=new home directories)]. Recommended /, ~ 5GB/distribution.

In my Optimum partition size thread (post 476766) I had migrated to asking about what Linux distros can share. abisko00 graciously indicated sharing swap would work OK.
+ ODIN also wants to format new 4.0 GB swap as I recall

Q1. Am I confused on the proper partitioning techniques to be used when installing multiple Linux distributions, in conjunction w/ a dual boot of MS Windows (XP Pro & Ultimate)?

Q2. Can I proceed w/o a ODIN / ?
Or is the new Odin beta 2 release a tad bit too buggy still?

Q3. Would Fedora Core 5 be better to attempt than ODIN?

*** On boot of Mandriva ODIN the options offered; ***
Boot from HD, New Installation, (vga lo, hi, or 16), text, patch, Rescue System, Install-ACPI disabled, alt0, alt4 & Memory test

Last edited by digital8doug; 08-30-2006 at 02:05 PM. Reason: Finish post w/ all details fm notes / recall; Previously interupted new instl Odin w/ Suse 10.1
 
Old 08-31-2006, 02:35 AM   #2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by digital8doug
Attempting 2nd Linux distro-25 GB free space. During a normal appearing *
install from recent DVD iso, DrakX Partitioning wizard wants to reformat my existing Suse partitions, it lists all NTFS OK w/o change [Use existing].

In custom partitioning when I select `Free Space' for install, Create, I do not have a / option!
Default offered is Journalized FS ReiserFS, which only offers boot, /mnt/windows, /opt, /tmp, /usr, /usr/local, /var, /var/ftp, /var/ww.
Other FS options; ext3, XFS, JFS, FAT32 all of which still have the same 9 mount point choices.

I was under the impression each distribution required a / , but could share swap, /home [(if different user name used/distro (=new home directories)]. Recommended /, ~ 5GB/distribution.

In my Optimum partition size thread (post 476766) I had migrated to asking about what Linux distros can share. abisko00 graciously indicated sharing swap would work OK.
+ ODIN also wants to format new 4.0 GB swap as I recall

Q1. Am I confused on the proper partitioning techniques to be used when installing multiple Linux distributions, in conjunction w/ a dual boot of MS Windows (XP Pro & Ultimate)?

Q2. Can I proceed w/o a ODIN / ?
Or is the new Odin beta 2 release a tad bit too buggy still?

Q3. Would Fedora Core 5 be better to attempt than ODIN?

*** On boot of Mandriva ODIN the options offered; ***
Boot from HD, New Installation, (vga lo, hi, or 16), text, patch, Rescue System, Install-ACPI disabled, alt0, alt4 & Memory test
A1. first make sure all your windows versions are installed. as windows will overwrite your mbr.
then make a seperate partition for each linux distro. eg: if you would install windows, mandriva and suse on 1 system. make a "C:" for your windows, and 2 "/" partitions for both linux distro's. in fact, every os needs it's own filesystem.
you will only need 1 swap partition, and best make a seperate (preferably FAT) partition so you can swap data in between your os-es. (make it FAT so both windows AND linux have read-write on it).

ill make a short list for you.

hda
hda1 NTFS (this will be your C
hda2 swap (your swap drive)
hda3 EXT3 (your first root partition)
hda4 logical partition
hda5 EXT3 (your second root partition, for the other linux)
hda6 FAT (this will be the data partition, so you can exchange
files between os-es)

if you want more then 2 linux distro's, you make more root partitions.
about the mount points, you CAN mount the other distro's root in any version. give it a logical mount point. all but "/", each distro should have it's own "/" (root) drive.
you can still change the order of partitions to whatever you like. but best install windows on the first primary partition.
and i suggest doing a manual partitioning.

on the other questions, i hope somebody else can help you with this.
 
Old 08-31-2006, 11:56 AM   #3
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Thumbs up Unable to make `/` w/ custom part in DrakX wizard, xp & Vista instld OK, Suse wereOK

Manual partitioning=Custom part, during install of the 2nd Linux distro?
or Use a 3rd party utility to make ALL the partitions for the Linux distros after M$ crap is all installed, before booting either Linux DVD?
Quote:
Originally Posted by shorun
A1. first make sure all windows versions are installed. Windows will overwrite your mbr..
That is right, all M$ (XP & Vista) were installed OK. Vista in Ext part, as hda5
Quote:
Then make a seperate partition for each linux distro. eg: if you install windows, mandriva and suse on 1 system. make a "C:" for your windows, and 2 "/" partitions for both linux distro's. in fact, every os needs it's own filesystem.
Correct, the M$ crap was instld & running fine, Suse 10.1 operating OK installed in Ext partition, hda7 / Suse, hda8 /home
Quote:
you will only need 1 swap partition,..
But how big? Suse default was 2 GB, I had custom made (Resized +1GB) hda6 /swap 3GB for Suse, then Mandriva DrakX wanted swap=4GB

Quote:
and best make a seperate (preferably FAT) partition so you can swap data in between your os-es. (make it FAT so both windows AND linux have read-write on it)...
Is FAT32 OK?
To Share text files, .pdf, .html, etc

Quote:
ill make a short list for you.
hda
hda1 NTFS (this will be your C
hda2 swap (your swap drive)
hda3 EXT3 (your first root partition)
hda4 logical partition
hda5 EXT3 (your second root partition, for the other linux)
hda6 FAT ( data partition, can exchange files between os-es)
TY, Ext3 vs using ReiserFS that default FS in both Suse & Mandriva???
hda#,see my notes above, I do not have a shared data partition for files yet, but will make one ASAP.
FAT [does not appear as available option ] vs using FAT32?

Quote:
want more then 2 linux distro's, you make more root partitions.
Mandriva DrakX will not let me make new root!

Quote:
about the mount points, you CAN mount the other distro's root in any version. give it a logical mount point. all but "/", each distro should have it's own "/" (root) drive.
Not sure what U mean, it appears to be contradictory. did U mean mount home in any version?

Quote:
can change the order of partitions to whatever you like. but best install windows on the first primary partition. RIGHT!
i suggest doing a manual partitioning.
custom during Linux install or 3rd party before hand, after M$ on HDD?? (sorry for the repeat)
SHORUN, TY for your help, I think I am on right track, but Mandriva DrakX wizard is messing me up. d8d
 
Old 09-03-2006, 11:33 AM   #4
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the size of you swap does not matter that mutch.
however, i keep the rule of 2x my RAM.
your mandriva should allway's ask for a "/" partition. in "costum partitioning" you simply select the partition you want and give it the mount point /
if it does not work. check if mandriva proposed another drive as root. you do not want mandriva to overwrite your other distro's.

EXT3 VS Reiser. well, depends on what you want. reiser is thought to be faster with small files and it does take less room on your hd with many smaller files.
you should look up the diff. on the reiserfs website (check google.) but both should work just fine.

your FAT drive should be FAT32 or VFAT. both will work. but i'm used to make this partition in windows and it will auto make it a FAT32 partition.

about mounting "other roots", let's say you have suse on hda1 and mandriva on hda2. then you can do this:

suse:
hda1 = /
hda2 = /mandriva

mandriva:
hda1 = /suse
hda2 = /

in this way both roots are in both distro's. so you CAN alter/fix your other linux distro. but there is no need to mount the other root.

this should cover it. hope it helps.
 
  


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