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Old 04-19-2011, 10:55 AM   #1
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New Linux user here looking for XP alternative


Good morning all!
Been a computer user for MANY years. Mostly an end user mind you, but have lots of basic OS skills. I'm sick and tired of the constant XP virus and malware issues and would like to try a more secure OS. I understand that no OS is "fool proof" or "100% hack safe" but I have heard some are more secure than others.

So I'm hoping to get a couple of recommendations and opinions on running the Linux OS with the windows gui.

I, like others have been subject to the opinions that YOU MUST RUN MAC in order to avoid viruses. I've also heard "why don't you just run Linux and enjoy the windows minus all the viruses and attacks.

So, please feel free to give me a couple of options and opinions, as well as a good download location so I can download and create my 1st Linux install cd? thanks/Gary
 
Old 04-19-2011, 11:38 AM   #2
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As a beginner go for ubuntu
http://www.ubuntu.com/
You can use a live CD, and run linux from the CD, so you can see if you like it, and if your hardware is supported.
Most distro's have a live CD version.
You could also run linux in a virtual machine in windows.
Take a look at
http://distrowatch.com/
to find more distro's.
Also take a look at
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

Kind regards
 
Old 04-19-2011, 02:54 PM   #3
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running the Linux OS with the windows gui.
Impossible.

Linux is fundamentally different from Windows. I guarantee that some things you thought were part of the nature of computers will turn out to be purely Windows concepts (this was true for me).

You should read this before continuing: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just saying that you should have the right mindset: you will only enjoy Linux of you want it for the sake of using Linux and are willing to relearn many things, not for the sake of not using Windows.

I tried Linux a few times looking for a Windows alternative, and didn't like it. But when I decided to just try it just for the sake of learning Linux to see what it is, I liked it (so much that in a few weeks I got rid of Windows).

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Old 04-19-2011, 03:22 PM   #4
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My first distro was Ubuntu, and I turned out OK. A lot of people also like Linux Mint.

You're never going to get "the Linux OS with the windows gui" exactly. But some new users find that the KDE desktop environment is a comfortable transition for Windows users (it has a "start" menu in the bottom left, for example). Ubuntu with KDE is called Kubuntu.

I recommend you look at some screenshots and try a few Live CDs. If you decide you like Linux, you can do a "dual boot" install, which means you can choose between Linux or Windows each time you turn on the computer--the best of both worlds!
 
Old 04-23-2011, 10:04 AM   #5
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SimplyMEPIS was my 3rd distro, & my 1st real desktop distro. I discovered & started using it in 2004 & haven't switched yet.

I quit "Winders", actually it quit me -- the HD w/ the OS on it died, in May 2005. I pulled the data drive in its tray & transferred to an open slot in my Linux machine & never looked back.

To me "Which distro?" is the wrong question to answer 1st. The correct 1st question is, "If I move to Linux, which DE (Desktop Environment, i.e. GUI) should I pick?" The correct 2nd question is "Does the package management system matter to me; &, if so which one do I pick?". After you settle those 2, choose the the right distro for yourself.

BTW, the correct 0th question is: "Do I have a personal mentor?" Perhaps from a local LUG. If so, skip all of this & simply use what s/he uses or tells you to use.


My personal favorites, in order:
  1. KDE 3.5.x
  2. XFCE
  3. ? LXDE
  4. ? Fluxbox
  5. W2k
  6. XP
  7. Gnome

Unranked, too little experience:
  • KDE 4 -- my goal
  • Unity -- unlikely
  • Vista -- prob. bad
  • W7 -- prob. worse

I am making an effort to learn KDE 4, but after 7 years of KDE 3 I'm not finding it easy. Nevertheless, I recommend it to new Linux users at H(ouston)LUG who will not have to unlearn KDE 3.

Having decided on KDE, I narrowed my choices down to Debian based distros, & chose SimplyMEPIS because KDE is its primary DE -- no back seat to Gnome.

For those who worry, it (MEPIS) has a live CD which is also the install CD; & I find its install process slightly easier than [Ku|U]buntu. That may be familiarity, more than objective ease of use.

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Old 04-23-2011, 10:23 AM   #6
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IMHO, Windows users would feel more comfortable using KDE and Mac users more comfortable using Gnome. You might want to look at openSuSE. They have the best KDE configuration.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 08:18 AM   #7
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IMHO, Windows users would feel more comfortable using KDE and Mac users more comfortable using Gnome.
That's my impression, too.

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You might want to look at openSuSE. They have the best KDE configuration.
Care to elaborate about "the best KDE configuration", if it wouldn't derail this thread that is.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 12:35 PM   #8
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Don't forget you can try before you install by using a live CD: everything runs (a little slowly) from the CD, so you can see what it looks like. For looking at the main GUIs in beginner-friendly distros, try

Mint for the Gnome desktop
PCLinuxOS for the KDE desktop
Xubuntu for the Xfce desktop

All these live CDs include an installer for when you've made your choice.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 01:36 PM   #9
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{...}I'm sick and tired of the constant XP virus and malware issues and would like to try a more secure OS.{...}
Windows is secure, problem is in PEBKAC. Anyway if you're new just pick popular desktop ones like Ubuntu, Mint, PCLinuxOS and if they fit your hardware keep them and then install additional stuff to experiment and find your favourite. Also i haven't used MAC but still preffer Gnome over KDE so it matters on personal taste not previous OS. Good luck.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 06:09 PM   #10
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I'd look at distrowatch.com for the top 20 or so to decide a selection. Almost all allow a "live cd" to try it. Very safe way to run each version.

I'd settle on one live before I tried to consider an install.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 07:23 PM   #11
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I do almost all the IT work for the members of my Church Family and I use Ubuntu 10.04. The learning curve from Windows to Ubuntu with the gnome desk top is almost flat. Since I am very large on pushing Christians not to live like the world I do a good deal of Linux Testing and recently tested Zorin. Zorin looks and feels a good deal like Windows and can, with a click, be made to look like XP or Vista but maintains all the safety (virus') of the Ubuntu it is based on. I believe you'll do well with this one for your first plunge.
 
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