[SOLVED] New info during fresh install may explain 18 minute delay in booting.

JeremyBoden · 07-08-2016, 03:02 PM

Since you have a misbehaving machine, why not wipe & install a different distro such as Mint or Debian.
These are both exceptionally reliable and you may even prefer one of them...

Gregg Bell · 07-08-2016, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyBoden

Post the output of

Code:

cat /etc/fstab

If it says "cat: /etc/fstab: No such file or directory" then the file is truly missing!

Thanks Jeremy. Looks like I've got the file.

Code:

gregory@gregory-GA-A55M-DS2:~/Desktop$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=c2b1f092-bc26-4b3b-842a-d1ce8388714b /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
# swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=db4c32d5-1b25-498b-8f6b-5ea2cfa69ce2 none            swap    sw              0       0
gregory@gregory-GA-A55M-DS2:~/Desktop$

Gregg Bell · 07-08-2016, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpollard

yes. It is the same.

It is possible the computer needs a bit of a cleaning. Dust/fuzz can cause temporary shorts as they absorb water (high humidity) and then work better after things warm up; not that that is your particular problem ( I lost a CRT monitor to cat fuzz once).

Thanks. I hear you. I installed new RAM sticks once and the computer wouldn't recognize drives. I Googled and a bunch of people were like, 'Re-seat the RAM sticks.' I was like, 'That can't be it.'

But I re-seated the RAM. That was it.

I'll take a look inside tomorrow. (The problem with shutting the computer down is it takes 18 minutes to get it back!)

Gregg Bell · 07-08-2016, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyBoden

Since you have a misbehaving machine, why not wipe & install a different distro such as Mint or Debian.
These are both exceptionally reliable and you may even prefer one of them...

Thanks. Never thought of that. I've just become so much of a Xubuntu fan though. Plus I just spent an afternoon installing all my software after the fresh install. It can be a 'last resort' option though. I've tried Mint before. It's good. Haven't tried Debian yet.

Gregg Bell · 07-09-2016, 02:52 PM

Okay, I looked inside the computer for a video card and as far as I can tell I have no video card. The motherboard is Gigabyte GA-A55M-DS2. And there are two screenshots.

This problem started (it used to boot normally) when I upgraded from Xubuntu 15.10 to Xubuntu 16.04LTS. Could it be that 15.10 didn't need a video card and 16.04LTS does?

Would the solution therefore be to buy a video card?

JeremyBoden · 07-09-2016, 05:43 PM

All PC's have always had a video card, its just that low-end video cards are integrated with the motherboard.
I suggest you install inxi which is a very useful program. Run the command

Code:

inxi -Gx

Alternatively, just run the command

Code:

lspci

jpollard · 07-09-2016, 05:45 PM

It has a built-in Radeon HD 65xx/64xx/63xx.

I'm suspecting a compatibility issue based on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver

Habitual · 07-10-2016, 07:13 AM

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/u...x-driver-16-04
from one of your many repetitive threads on your OS disguised as a Toaster trying to run steam.

JeremyBoden · 07-10-2016, 11:02 AM

So it follows that a moderate sized nvidia card would be beneficial?

Make sure the physical connection (VGA/HDMI/DVI etc) is appropriate.

ardvark71 · 07-10-2016, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregg Bell

This problem started (it used to boot normally) when I upgraded from Xubuntu 15.10 to Xubuntu 16.04LTS.

Hi Gregg...

Did you upgrade to 16.04 using the update utility in 15.10? If so, that's possibly where the problem stems from. Either that, or a bug in 16.04 itself. When upgrading, in my opinion, it's always best to install from scratch, wiping (or formatting) the hard drive first.

I'm not certain that purchasing a new video card will resolve this, although it's possible. I would try reinstalling from scratch first.

Regards...

JeremyBoden · 07-10-2016, 05:37 PM

A non-Ubuntu distro would have a slightly different set of video drivers.
Try booting a DVD for a different distro, just to see if it works.
Personally I would favour LMDE, Mint, Debian...

Unfortunately your fstab file indicates that your root & /home directories lie in the same partition.
This makes preservation of your data a little bit messy.

Gregg Bell · 07-12-2016, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyBoden

All PC's have always had a video card, its just that low-end video cards are integrated with the motherboard.
I suggest you install inxi which is a very useful program. Run the command

Code:

inxi -Gx

Alternatively, just run the command

Code:

lspci

Thanks Jeremy. I looked at inxi and it looks cool but I didn't know what I would do with it, so I ran:

Code:

gregory@gregory-GA-A55M-DS2:~/Desktop$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h Processor Root Complex
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6530D]
00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h Processor Root Port
00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 40)
00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB EHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB EHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 14)
00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH IDE Controller
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 11)
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH PCI Bridge (rev 40)
00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:16.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:16.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB EHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 0 (rev 43)
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 1
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 2
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 3
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 4
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 6
00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 5
00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 7
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
02:06.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xx/62xx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 62)
02:06.1 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xx/62xx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 62)
02:06.2 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 65)
gregory@gregory-GA-A55M-DS2:~/Desktop$

Gregg Bell · 07-12-2016, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpollard

It has a built-in Radeon HD 65xx/64xx/63xx.

I'm suspecting a compatibility issue based on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver

Thanks. (I was kind of confused how I was playing videos without a video card. LOL)

Gregg Bell · 07-12-2016, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyBoden

So it follows that a moderate sized nvidia card would be beneficial?

Make sure the physical connection (VGA/HDMI/DVI etc) is appropriate.

Thanks. I'm thinking at this point of just living with the delayed start, though. (Unless it was really cheap.)

Gregg Bell · 07-12-2016, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardvark71

Hi Gregg...

Did you upgrade to 16.04 using the update utility in 15.10? If so, that's possibly where the problem stems from. Either that, or a bug in 16.04 itself. When upgrading, in my opinion, it's always best to install from scratch, wiping (or formatting) the hard drive first.

I'm not certain that purchasing a new video card will resolve this, although it's possible. I would try reinstalling from scratch first.

Regards...

Thanks ardvark. Initially the problem came with upgrading from Xubuntu 15.10 to Xubuntu 16.04LTS, yes. But then I installed 16.04LTS from scratch and still had the problem.