OK I have now managed to get back on the web, it seems leaving the install going over night and the downloading of all the updates caused my phone line to give in (or it could just be a coincidence). We have bypassed the cable and it reconnected to the internet. Still cant log on to my main router, but this is not a Linux issue and now i have the internet i am sure i can sort it out.
Sorry to waste your time with non Linux stuff and thanks for the advice!