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Old 05-25-2005, 03:07 PM   #1
mazdab2600
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Need some kind of linuxschool


hmm it seems like i need some kind of school to get my linux mandrake 10.1 to work like i want it to ....is there any kind of softwareschool that i can easyly install ,and become an expert quickly ? ...
and also my biggest problem for the moment is an option in "proxyservers" that i feel i need to use but it is just grey ? ; i cant select the option whitch alows me to enter my name and pass to identyfy me to the proxyserver ...please help me whit this . i have earlyer posted the same question under networking/"general proxy autentifitation problems" ; but no help there check it out if you think you can help me ,,i have explaind the problem more there..
thanks in advance ..

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Old 05-27-2005, 01:00 AM   #2
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All I know about Linux, I learned from the internet and the O'Reilly book.

Are there any good Linux books?
# Good Linux books
Running Linux
Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition

Preparing to install Linux:
# Choosing a Linux Distribution:
Will your hardware work?
Do you have good RAM? Memtest86 - A Stand-alone Memory Diagnostic
A Beginner's Guide to Choosing a Linux Distribution
Reasons to Choose or Not Choose Linux
LWN distro list
elinux Linux Distributions
# Freeware tools for partitioning/resizing hard drive partitions:
Any Linux Live CD usually have fdisk, cfdisk and other tools available
Ranish Partition Manager
# Understanding Linux Filesystem layout:
Directory Navigation Help File
Filesystems, Directories, and Devices Help File
Proper Filesystem Layout
Advanced filesystem implementor's guide (requires registration)

Do I buy a boxed source, download off the internet or buy some cheap CDs?
It's your choice! If you download, I suggest that you check the md5sums on the Linux ISO Images and make sure you know how to burn ISOs in Windows to install Linux
# Cheap CDs
Discount Linux CDs
Linux Central
Cheapbytes
TuxCDs
ComputerHelperGuy
CheapISO
Os Heaven
 
Old 05-27-2005, 03:01 AM   #3
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the college i'm attending offers a linux+ trainng class i'm enrolled and attemping to learn and pass now. check local community colleges for classes
 
Old 05-27-2005, 03:12 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally posted by Grooveyphreak
the college i'm attending offers a linux+ trainng class i'm enrolled and attemping to learn and pass now. check local community colleges for classes
Cool! I have been trying to get our local community college branch office to offer Linux classes. I would like to try my hand at teaching it. I think I would probably use the Knoppix Live CD (even though most of my experience is in Red Hat/Fefora Core) as it seems to have the easiest install of Linux (Debian SID) that I have seen and it has been stable for me so far.

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Old 05-27-2005, 04:58 AM   #5
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I learned it mostly from here and annoying people on IRC
 
Old 05-27-2005, 05:37 AM   #6
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well we are using fedora 2 but i got the wrong edition of text book and got rh7.2 which won't install so i've installed 9 and having problems with changing the screen resolution see my other post on this forum god i hope someone can help me.
 
Old 05-27-2005, 06:09 AM   #7
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I don't get a GUI/my resolution isn't what I want
# Configuring X
Linux Hardware Compatibility HOWTO - video cards
The Linux XFree86 HOWTO
Configuring XFree86 for a Non-Specific Linux Distribution
Common X configuring tools:
Debian - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
Mandrake - XFdrake
SuSE - sax2
Red Hat Linux 9: Red Hat Linux Reference Guide Chapter 7. The X Window System
Redhat 7.3 down - the setup utility leads to several config tools
Redhat 7.3 up - redhat-config-xfree86
You may have one or more of these tools:
XF86Setup
XFree86 -configure
Xconfigurator
xf86cfg
xf86config
xconf
ATI Linux drivers
If you need the nVidia driver, you want the Linux IA32 driver unless you are using a 64 bit CPU
 
Old 05-27-2005, 06:32 AM   #8
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okay maybe i'm just completely ignorant about linux but i've tried every form of the commands xf86config cfg cnfg configure everything i've even tried to locate this X11 directory and it says no such directory and the commands dont do anything do i have some funky release of RH where someone changed the filesystems around or something i'm having no luck and cannot get into my gui ARRRGH!!!
 
Old 05-27-2005, 06:35 AM   #9
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Did you issue those commands as root?

Basic system administration
To change to the full root account (system administrator), if you are running X, open an x terminal and use these commands from your user account. Note the change in the prompt. You can do the same from a virtual terminal as well, but you can't open an x terminal to do so.
Code:
[fancy@tinwhistle fancy]$ su -
Password: <give root password and press enter>
[root@tinwhistle root]#
Remember, now whatever you command in root (it's the "god" mode. You can bless or destroy at your whim) usually gets done if enough system is left to carry out the command. Sit on your hands and read the commands you type at least 3 times before pressing the enter key when in root.

What is the result of this command as root?

X -showconfig

Last edited by fancypiper; 05-27-2005 at 06:36 AM.
 
Old 05-27-2005, 06:46 AM   #10
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ok here is the deal since i cannot log in under noramal graphical mode i'm having to switch to a command line shell(correct?) and login as root but i'm still being denied permission for somethings (just hacking around) so i'm constantly switching between windows XP which i'm on now so i can use the internet and linux. the reason i say all this is to ask weather not logging in in GUI would cause problems my guess is not. as the command shell is just the text version of linux(correct?) like i said i'm completely green to linux so this may be the problem but when i try the config commands it says no such command or something to the sort
 
Old 05-27-2005, 07:01 AM   #11
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x -showconfig =

XFree86 v. 4.3.0 (Red hat linux release 4.3.0-2)
feb 27 03
X protocol v11 revision 0 release 6.6
BOS Linux 2.4.20-3bigmem I686 [ELF]

Module loader present
os kernel: linux v. 2.4.20-8
 
Old 05-27-2005, 07:37 AM   #12
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Strange, you should have all these installed.

Maybe you need to use the full path, so try and run /sbin/<command>

XF86Setup
XFree86 -configure
Xconfigurator
xf86cfg
xf86config
xconf

I think you have to be already in the GUI to run the 'drake command config utility, XFdrake

Is this a fresh install? If so, I suggest you might try the expert install and make sure you install the developmental packages as well as mc (midnight commander) and kernel-source as you will probably need them and I don't believe they are included in the defaults.

It seems like there was an x configuration that ran when I installed 'drake and the GUI worked OK.

Can you find a file /etc/X11/XF86Config? If so, you can hand edit it (unless they have replaced it with a script) to reflect your hardware.

Here is mine for an example:
Code:
# XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "Default Layout"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
	InputDevice    "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the 
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
	RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
	FontPath     "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "dbe"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "fbdevhw"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "record"
	Load  "freetype"
	Load  "type1"
	Load  "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#	Option	"Xleds"		"1 2 3"
# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#	Option	"XkbDisable"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#	Option	"XkbModel"	"pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#	Option	"XkbModel"	"microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#	Option	"XkbLayout"	"de"
# or:
#	Option	"XkbLayout"	"de"
#	Option	"XkbVariant"	"nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#	Option	"XkbOptions"	"ctrl:swapcaps"
# Or if you just want both to be control, use:
#	Option	"XkbOptions"	"ctrl:nocaps"
#
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "keyboard"
	Option	    "XkbRules" "xfree86"
	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc105"
	Option	    "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/psaux"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
	Option	    "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then
# this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you
# also use USB mice at the same time.
	Identifier  "DevInputMice"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
	Option	    "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Gateway EV91"
	DisplaySize  360	270
	HorizSync    30.0 - 95.0
	VertRefresh  50.0 - 160.0
	Option	    "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "Videocard0"
	Driver      "nv"
	VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
	BoardName   "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Videocard0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     24
		Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Group        0
	Mode         0666
EndSection
 
Old 05-27-2005, 07:56 AM   #13
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the problem is i'm being denied access to most files i try to access in /etc/ well everyone i've tried i got the XFree86 -Configure to finally work but it just gave me -names to use and the all came back with an error stating X already running for display 0 says the same when using cmnd startx

yes this is fresh install downloaded here a year ago or so when i install this thing i used custom install installed all packages so i dont know.

Also i'm very confused why when i'm the "god" of this computer with "root" i'm getting access denied or permission denied or something like that. it's my computer let me in..

i'll probably have to just reinstall and leave it at 640X860 which is horrible in linux as i can't view anything in gui the windows are all too big for the screen thats hard to believe with a 19" screen and i thought it may have been the fact that this is an LCD screen so I grabbed my old CRT and same thing video mode not supported( actually this is what the LCD says) the CRT goes to standby says check video cable blah blah blah

I'm out of ideas maybe i'll just switch to fedora core2 but hell my cdrw drive just went out and my other mobo just fried so i can't burn with it either. wow this sucks

Does this make sense to you that i'm being denied acess to my files and directories??
I really appriciate your help thus far and i'm sorry to be such a hassle, Damn newbies anyway huh?
guess we all have to start somewhere.

 
Old 05-27-2005, 09:10 AM   #14
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I can't understand why you are being denied access if you are root.

Try to chmod of the folder, such as:

chmod 755 /etc, then see if you have access (and check all the sub folders as well).

Once you get the GUI working at any resolution, you can run the resolution tool to see if you can change it to a better one.

Either alt-left click and drag or control-left click and drag (one of the two, I don't remember) will allow you to drag the window around until you can find the other parts of the window that don't show at low res.

Last edited by fancypiper; 05-27-2005 at 09:14 AM.
 
Old 05-27-2005, 10:56 AM   #15
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Well i do appriciate the help you've provided me with today i'll try that suggestion and after that if no luck i'll be switching to fedora core 2 As i'll be getting that next week i'm not sure if those two are mostly the same or not but i'll give rh9 one more try but like i said i've almost giving up hope for it. i'm sure i'll have more problems once i get that installed that is if i don't get rh9 working before wed. again thanks for all the help and i'll try the chmod

the problem occured when i went into preferences and changed the res to 800X600 as soon as i restarted X i lost GUI I think linux hates me. oh well the feeling is becoming mutual
 
  


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