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Old 03-19-2004, 08:05 PM   #1
keechinz
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Exclamation Need Help ~~!


hi,i'm completely noob on linux and this is the 1st time i wanted to use linux fedora.

i want to ask question that is fedora now support sata? kernel 2.6 ?
and i have't install linux b4 too so now i need some help....

i'm using bathon 2500+
msi kt 6 delta
maxtor 120 gb sata

what should i do ?
 
Old 03-20-2004, 10:15 AM   #2
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I'd recommend you a CD-based distro like MandrakeMove or Knoppix for the beginning. They're loaded from a cd (without installing anything), give you the look&feel and allow you to check if al your hardware is supported. Then you can install. The general rule is that if hardware works in one distro, it'll work with all others.

Fedora doesn't have 2.6 for now, IMHO.
 
Old 03-20-2004, 11:02 AM   #3
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Mara's suggestion is probably best.

I understand that SATA disc support is quite a new thing. You might want to google for linux+distro+SATA and see what comes up.

Or have a look at the homepages for mandrakemove and knoppix, and see what they say about the SATA support.

Erm, mandrake 10 community, I believe has SATA support and as long as you don't select the "LSB" package when you follow the install, you also get a 2.6.3 kernel - but don't forget, the "community" bit means that it's a "testing/unstable" version. Mandrake 10 official is out in a month or 2.

regards

John
 
Old 03-20-2004, 11:21 AM   #4
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Mandrake 10.0 Community has 2.6.3 kernel.

/boot/config-2.6.3-4mdk shows

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CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SVW=m
CONFIG_SCSI_ATA_PIIX=m
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_PROMISE=m
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=m
 
Old 03-23-2004, 07:24 AM   #5
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hi...any comment where had alot of msi supported mobo linux driver ?
sob i dunno where to download linux driver...i try on www.msi.com.tw but it does't had supported mobo driver with linux !

does linux need driver ? i know display driver can be download from www.nvidia.com (i'm using Fx5600) so help me...

i almost finish download mandrake so now i'm gonna need to prepare the driver ~! i'm using maxtor sata 120gb

help me pls~!!! anyway thanks MARA ... i download mandrake now!
 
Old 03-23-2004, 08:12 AM   #6
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Unhappy ... by the sounds of things this is too late...

Keechinz,
Fellow newbie here, if its not too late, seriously, I'm not joking here....

1. If you have a CD-R drive and CD's available to burn (and an OS to burn them on)
2. Click on this link to download Knoppix 3.3 (3.4 is going to be out soon, but I bet you can't wait) http://www.knoppix.net/get.php
3. Burn the Knoppix iso to CD
4. Set your computers BIOS to boot from CD, put the CD in the CDROM drive, and watch.

Knoppix is an entire Linux distribution that runs COMPLETELY off CD, without installing anything to your HDD, you will be astounded. Not only is it excellent for seeing what Linux is like, getting used to it ect., but you can even install it to HD and have it as your OS (which is what I've done on one of the computers here. Absolutely amazing). It has all the software you could ever want and because it is very user friendly and Debian based you get great help from the community.

Well I really do hope you try this, when I started off (about 3 weeks ago) I launched straight into main-stream Debian and it's really hard core, when I found Knoppix, wow, what a relief it wasn't like wading through waist-high mud anymore!

Try www.knoppix.net for any help and how to's etc, and seriously don't try anything harder till you've tried Knoppix first.

Please if anyone agrees with this help Keechinz to see this by agreeing. Cheers.

George~Youth2000
 
Old 03-23-2004, 12:17 PM   #7
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Hi,

I do agree with Stimz. I've run knoppix 3.1 and now 3.3. It's really simple to have things working and easy to keep it update. They'll release 3.4 this moth or so. It's a first step to Debian (sarge on the launch for some time now).
I tried Mandrake 9.1 before (because I couldn't burn CDs) from what I read 9.2 is not as stable and 10 ...

Good luck, Marc A
 
Old 03-23-2004, 04:59 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by keechinz
hi...any comment where had alot of msi supported mobo linux driver ?
sob i dunno where to download linux driver...i try on www.msi.com.tw but it does't had supported mobo driver with linux !
Mobo drivers are usually included in the system, so you don't need to download anything extra.

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does linux need driver ? i know display driver can be download from www.nvidia.com (i'm using Fx5600) so help me...
Drivers for most supported hardware are in the system. When they're not, there's a reason - for instance Nvidia drivers have a license that make it harder to include the driver in the system, but you can download and install it yourself.

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i almost finish download mandrake so now i'm gonna need to prepare the driver ~! i'm using maxtor sata 120gb
You won't have a chance to install Nvidia driver during installation. You can do this when you have teh system running. Sata drivers are in MDK 10 so..

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help me pls~!!! anyway thanks MARA ... i download mandrake now!
And good luck!
 
Old 03-23-2004, 07:43 PM   #9
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*sigh* thanks for the advise but which one i should use?
mandrake community 10 or knoppix 3.3 ? i just complete download mandrake and burn it into CD's already...

sob now i just wanted to comfirm bout the the driver only...anyway now i will install mandrake and try once till i know the basic of mandrake i will try knoppix. hehe easily to format it or not ?

i'm just scared my SATA can't support...is mandrake community 10 had included inside ? IS VIA VT8237 is supported ? haha i can't download the linux base driver from www.msi.com.tw

anyway can anyone tell me which website does had alot of linux driver so i can download ... thanks for helping me MARA , STIMZ
 
Old 03-24-2004, 01:09 AM   #10
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Dear mara , like what you said i only can install NVIDIA driver once my system was running (you mean is after i complete the setup and it will like be Microsoft windows "safe mode") then only i can install my nvidia driver like i does in windows ?

i found out this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ticle&artid=30 but it's just mandrake 9.1 and now i install is mandrake 10 . will it any differenet ?

so which way do i need to follow ? please help me out mara~!
thanks for reading
 
Old 03-24-2004, 04:11 AM   #11
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Thumbs up it's okay just relax.....

Hey Keechinz,
Knoppix runs off CD, it's very hard to grasp the idea that an operating system can run off CD without installing anything to HD, so you can have mandrake installed on your system, put Knoppix into the CD-drive and boot up Knoppix without installing or changing anything on your hard drive (like mandrake).

The best way I can describe it is like booting up WinXP from CD and not installing anything, but it being exactly the same if it was installed, can you see what I mean.
This is why I and alot of people suggest it, because you don't mess up your HD, and you can get used to a very fine Linux distribution.

You can install it to hard drive if you want, but I wouldn't recommend doing that until you've tried it first. I understand you've downloaded mandrake and burnt it to CD, but there is no harm in getting Knoppix too. Knoppix is DESIGNED to be a system recovery device, so if anything goes wrong with mandrake, at least with Knoppix you can see whats gone wrong and correct it.

My personal (some-what limited) experience is with Debian, and Knoppix so I would advise you to download Knoppix and use that, because unless you set out to modify your system through knoppix, you can't do anything to the HD..... it's safe.

About you SATA drive and mandrake, I'm sorry I can't help you but I hope that you will find a solution soon.

Knoppix,Knoppix,Knoppix,Knoppix,Knoppix,Knoppix

Hope you find all is well,

George~Youth2000

Last edited by Stimz; 03-24-2004 at 04:20 AM.
 
Old 03-24-2004, 08:23 AM   #12
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okay i will try on knoppix ... i promise i will had a tried on it...
anyway thanks stimz~!
 
Old 03-24-2004, 04:10 PM   #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by keechinz
Dear mara , like what you said i only can install NVIDIA driver once my system was running (you mean is after i complete the setup and it will like be Microsoft windows "safe mode") then only i can install my nvidia driver like i does in windows ?
It'll not be liek safe mode. It'll be fully functional, but using default (simplier) driver for Nvidia cards. The accelerated driver won't install in the graphical mode, so you'll need to switch to console (but you can switch between the modes easily) and do the installation.
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i found out this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ticle&artid=30 but it's just mandrake 9.1 and now i install is mandrake 10 . will it any differenet ?
It's the same. There's one driver for all distros and it works for all. It also works with Knoppix
 
  


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