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Old 09-20-2008, 05:32 AM   #1
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Question Need guidance about Fedora and RH Linux 9.


HI,
I need some guidance regarding to the new products of Linux like Fedora or Ubuntu. Well i have used Red Hat Linux 9 four years ago and purchase many books to study it. In between this time i switch to windows .Now i want to use linux and start again the remaining things which i have left during study in Linux 9.

Some one told me that in the new linux products (apache, php, gnome, etc) are all obsolete even the file system has been obsolete like you can see in this web site
http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html

It is shocking news for me that the entire setup,file system ,commands all are obsolete.It is true? If i install Fedora (Latest Version) then the new file system should be entirely different that Red Hat Linux 9 ,Enterprise Linux 4 ES/AS.Please let me guide so i put my all old Red Hat Linux 9 books in the scarab.

thanks in advance,
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Old 09-20-2008, 05:40 AM   #2
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No, the commands in Redhat 9 are not "obsolete" the way you are thinking.
The file structure is still roughly the same in the latest Fedora and RHEL. The commands are all the same.

The difference is that RH9 is now 5 years old. There is no support, no updates, and it is outdated. When you see the way the new versions of Linux run and operate, you will realize that RH9 is obsolete.

All the programs and libraries in RH9 now have newer versions. For example, the kernel in RH9 is 2.4.33 and the current kernel for new distros is 2.6.20+. Gnome is a very early Gnome 2.0, while Gnome is now on 2.24. Openoffice is 1.0, while the new version is 2.4. Apache in RH9 is 1.3, while the current version is 2.2.

I hope this helps
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:06 AM   #3
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thanks IBall for the reply.I am using RH 9 bcz i just want to revise the commands then wil switch on Fedora latest version.Well My hard disk is of 80 GB though i have study the linux file system and its directory structure but i want that i make partitions as professions Red Hat linux user made.
Please guide me for it
/Root.....%?
/boot.....%/
/swap.....double of ram
/home......%?
/etc......%? (Does it need or not please guide me)
2- I have installed download Yahoo Messenger for linux.it was save in my home folder.I extract it now i does't know which file is executed.I mean just like we use exe file in linux which one is it.
Should be thankful for your kind support.
 
Old 09-21-2008, 08:44 AM   #4
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You don't need any of those extra partitions. If you do want them, then the size depends on your system. Use "df" and "du" to see how your space is being used.

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I am using RH 9 bcz i just want to revise the commands
I don't understand.

In re Yahoo messenger: It sounds like you extracted from a .tar.gz or something. This will result in a folder with a similar name. Open this folder and look for a README file or something that looks like an install script.
 
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You don't need any of those extra partitions.
Which ones are "extra"? Shouldn't partition scheme choice use depend on the purpose of the machine?

@gardenair: LQ has seen more than a few discussions about partitioning schemes. Maybe search for some.
 
Old 09-21-2008, 01:26 PM   #6
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Really, just get rid of Red Hat 9 and install Fedora (or anything that's new). As IBall said, the commands are the same in general (some things like package management commands will be different).
 
Old 09-21-2008, 04:04 PM   #7
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Which ones are "extra"? Shouldn't partition scheme choice use depend on the purpose of the machine?

@gardenair: LQ has seen more than a few discussions about partitioning schemes. Maybe search for some.
My slant was that the average user does not need anything except one partition--mounted at /. The more specific statement is that---if someone does not know whether they need something--then the chances are very high that they do not need it.

I think that using just one partition is sound advice to a beginner.
 
Old 09-21-2008, 04:23 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by gardenair View Post
Some one told me that in the new linux products (apache, php, gnome, etc) are all obsolete even the file system has been obsolete like you can see in this web site
http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html
The word 'obsolete' does not appear in that document; unfortunately it seems to use the term 'file system' interchangably with 'files system heirarchy' and this leads to confusion, but the end result is that it is unclear exactly to what you refer.

The heirarchy (i.e., which files go where) has changed slightly over the years; this was largely a process of trying to standardise things between distributions and has been for the greater good (eventually).

The file systems (ext2, ext3, reiser, jfs and others) have been added to over the years, but the only ones that have gone obsolete are really ancient (did you use minix? ext? they would have been obsolescent by the time that your RH 9 was released and you shouldn't have chosen either of them, but you probably still could use them if you really want to; you shouldn't, though); there are, however, some which are not as advised for new use as they once were. This should not cause you a problem, but if it does seem to cause you a problem, it would be helpful if you could say at least something about what you think that problem is and then tailored advice may be forthcoming.

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It is shocking news for me that the entire setup,file system ,commands all are obsolete.It is true?
No. Please be less shocked.

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If i install Fedora (Latest Version) then the new file system should be entirely different that Red Hat Linux 9 ,Enterprise Linux 4 ES/AS.Please let me guide so i put my all old Red Hat Linux 9 books in the scarab.
No it shouldn't. Let's hope its a big scarab as normally these things aren't big enough to take a small pamphlet, never mind a computer manual.
 
Old 09-21-2008, 05:49 PM   #9
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I think that using just one partition is sound advice to a beginner.
I disagree from professional experience, slackware.com disagrees and the Slackbook disagrees as well. Not that that would matter of course...
 
Old 09-22-2008, 05:03 AM   #10
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thanks all for your guidence and replies.
 
  


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