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Old 11-05-2014, 09:58 AM   #16
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It's impossible to give a step by step guide because it depends entirely on what software you're using to burn the CD/DVD.

I typically use ImgBurn when I'm on Windows, which includes an option right on the first page to "write an image file to a disc". Most other CD/DVD burning software have similar options as well.
Well not "impossible" IMHO. It is that the distinction does need to be made that when using an ISO image the intention is that the file is a disk image file intended to be used as a disk image is used. Versus simply a data file that one would write to the disk.

The very difficult part is that applications out there recognize .ISO and some also will give the option to save .ISO as data versus use that file as the disk image.

That said, I think a lot of blogs or HOWTO descriptions do give step by step instructions; recommending software to use and showing screenshot examples. If the writer of the guide, howto, or blog offers a feedback method; I'd recommend people use that when they detect unknown cases where a newbie could misinterpret things.
 
Old 11-05-2014, 11:10 AM   #17
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Ok I just ordered a Corsair flash drive which meets my specs (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Corsair-CMFV...-/161458562754) -- only $41 no tax free ship, metal keychain hole, 5-yr warranty from Corsair. This thing is tiny.

I also downloaded unetbootin. I love these links, folks -- thanks.

Will let you know what happens in a few days.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 02:42 PM   #18
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It'll be a week before my flash drive arrives. In the meantime I got a new recordable disk to burn the Zorin iso to. It's a Memorex 4.7GB DVD+RW. I installed ImgBurn. Running ImgBurn, I clicked on Write Image File To Disk. As a Source File I specified zorin-os-9.1-core-64.iso from my Downloads Folder. ImgBurn told me "This disk needs to be formatted before you can write to it. Would yo like to format it now?" Yes. Twenty seconds later I get an error msg. The ImgBurn Log lists the following:

I 12:16:22 Total Physical Memory: 3,144,676 KiB - Available: 1,785,964 KiB
I 12:16:22 Initialising SPTI...
I 12:16:22 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 12:16:22 -> Drive 1 - Info: SONY DVD RW DRU-510A 1.1a (F (RAID)
I 12:16:22 -> Drive 2 - Info: _NEC DV-5800A 1.07 (D (RAID)
I 12:16:22 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!
I 12:16:48 Operation Started!
I 12:16:48 Device: [4:1:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-510A 1.1a (F (RAID)
I 12:16:48 Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: INFODISC-A10-01)
I 12:16:48 Media Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x
I 12:16:48 Quick Erase: No
I 12:16:48 Format Properly: Yes
I 12:16:48 Format Size: Preferred
I 12:16:48 Erasing Disc...
W 12:17:07 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0%, 0/5) - Power Calibration Area Error
E 12:17:11 Failed to Erase Disc! - Reason: Power Calibration Area Error
E 12:17:11 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:23

I repeated the procedure several times, switching the write speed from 2.4x to 4x and playing with the Automatic Write Speed as well. Each time I get the same Power Calibration Area Error.

Does anyone know what's happening here?

Thanks
 
Old 11-06-2014, 03:39 PM   #19
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Just in case it's helpful, here's the information on my DVD-RW from the ImgBurn main window:

SONY DVD RW DRU-510A 1.1a (RAID)
Current Profile: DVD+RW

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
State of Last Session: Empty
Erasable: Yes
Formatted: No
Free Sectors: 2,295,104
Free Space: 4,700,372,992 bytes
Free Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)
MID: INFODISC-A10-01
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x

TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0)
-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 2295103)
-> LeadOut (LBA: 2295104)

Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: INFODISC-A10-01
Book Type: DVD+RW
Part Version: 2
Disc Size: 120 mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: INFODISC-A10-01
Book Type: DVD+RW
Part Version: 2
Disc Size: 120 mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Format Capacities:
DT: 0x01 - NB: 2295104 (0x00230540) - TDP: 2048
FT: 0x26 - NB: 2295104 (0x00230540) - TDP: 0

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2295103 (0x0023053F)
-> RS: 5,540 KB/s (4x) - WS: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)
Descriptor 2...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2295103 (0x0023053F)
-> RS: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x) - WS: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)
Descriptor 3...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2295103 (0x0023053F)
-> RS: 5,540 KB/s (4x) - WS: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
Descriptor 4...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2295103 (0x0023053F)
-> RS: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x) - WS: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
 
Old 11-08-2014, 06:21 AM   #20
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Any USB2 pendrive will work in machines from around about 2002 onwards.

USB3 pendrives should be avoided unless you know for certain that your distro of choice supports it, (as well as your computer).

(If you want to put a distro onto a pendrive, dd.exe is a (Windows) program that works the same way as the Linux version.)
 
Old 11-08-2014, 11:27 AM   #21
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I did a youtube series on migrating from windows xp to MX-14. its particular to MX, but the basic ideas are common among many beginner-friendly distros.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...pVW0ftOsRULPAS

the first video walks a user from downloading an (mx) iso and burning either a cd or making a bootable usb. Links for the windows tools (imgburn and unetbootin) are presented in the notes under the first vid.

the second vid walks a user through making a dual boot setup so that you can install (mx) without nuking your xp installation.

again, these videos are mx specific, but a lot of the general steps should apply to multiple distros.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 10:24 PM   #22
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USB3 pendrives should be avoided unless you know for certain that your distro of choice supports it, (as well as your computer).
Hmm.. Well that's good to know. Though I'm not sure how one would find out whether Zorin, for example, supports USB3.

So I went to Google.

According to this webpage (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2183306), "The Zorin 7 release has the Linux kernel v3.8 which would support USB3. I don't think you should need anything else."

In the same forum, someone wrote, "USB3 was supported on linux before Mac or Windows, there's no need for drivers when they're built into the OS." "The Linux kernel has supported USB 3.0 since version 2.6.31, which was released in September 2009."

I'm pretty sure the Zorin I downloaded was v9.1

It looks like they're selling distros of Zorin 9.1 on USB3 flash drives at this webpage: https://www.osdisc.com/products/zorinos/v91

But I'm a newb and don't necessarily understand everything I copied off Google. Should I continue to be concerned about having ordered a USB3 flash drive for Zorin 9.1?
 
Old 11-08-2014, 10:28 PM   #23
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USB3 pendrives should be avoided unless you know for certain that your distro of choice supports it, (as well as your computer).
When I was shopping for a flash drive, I read somewhere that USB3 flash drives were backward compatible. I assumed that meant a USB flash drive could be used on a USB2 machine. Is this incorrect?
 
Old 11-08-2014, 11:39 PM   #24
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When I was shopping for a flash drive, I read somewhere that USB3 flash drives were backward compatible. I assumed that meant a USB flash drive could be used on a USB2 machine. Is this incorrect?
Does your machine have usb3 or did you add a usb3 card? I looked up specs on your mobo & I don't see it?
Anyways that seems to be a nice size drive
 
Old 11-09-2014, 12:48 AM   #25
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No, my motherboard has USB 2.0 -- it's 7 years old now and overdue for replacement, and my next motherboard will certainly have 3.0, so I bought a USB3 flash drive. Why not, as long as USB3 is backward compatible. Am I mistaken? Should I start worrying? I've made 2 assumptions, (1) that a USB3 flash drive will work just fine on a USB2 machine, and (2) that Zorin 9.1 supports USB3.

Yes, the Corsair Voyager Vega USB 3.0 64GB flash drive seemed such a superlative device, I figured it was the one to have. Hope that wasn't a massive blunder.

I didn't know a USB3 card was an option. I guess I'll be buying one if my new 3.0 flash drive doesn't work in my USB 2.0 slots.
 
Old 11-09-2014, 01:07 AM   #26
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After posting I noticed that it was backwards compatible.

Since you're thinking of replacing mobo, have you thought about just getting a new processor instead? Do you like your asus board? Have you ever tried the Express Gate?

I like the Asus mobo in my sig, I put it together & after all the money I spent on it, I ended up getting another computer for free that was much better than the 1 I put together.
 
Old 11-09-2014, 01:52 AM   #27
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A marketing blurb for my new Corsair flash drive:

" Fast, small, and beautiful. The ultra-slim USB 3.0 drive for ultra-slim notebooks.

Flash Voyager Vega is ultra-compact, fast, and a perfect complement for the latest ultra-slim PCs. The scratch-resistant hard chrome plated zinc alloy housing is so small that you can just put it in your notebook’s USB port and keep it there, no matter where you go. Compatibility is no problem – you get USB 3.0 speed on the latest systems and full USB 2.0 support on mainstream PCs, and it’s fully compatible with Windows, OS X, and Linux with no driver installation required. The sleek one-piece design has an integrated loop for securely attaching to your keychain. "
 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:37 AM   #28
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USB3 devices are completely compatible with USB2 hardware, and vice versa. You just won't get the higher transfer speeds USB3 provides unless you connect to a USB3 port. That's why buying a USB3 flash drive for use with USB2 ports is sort of a waste of money - you'll only get USB2 transfer speed. But if you think you may eventually get something with USB3 ports, it may be worth the money. I just bought my first USB3 flash drive, for use with my chromebox, which has only USB3 ports. These work with either USB2 or USB3 devices, but the speed is much faster when both the port and the device are USB3.
 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:58 AM   #29
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I'm glad you mentioned this, Uncle Jaque, I would have simply copied the files to disk.

Someone should mention how to 'burn an image'. Step by step, because we're, like, newbies.

I have an IQ of 135 ('gifted'). Doesn't count for much with computers because I'm uninformed. I suspect you're in the same boat as I.

Thanks for your post.
Maybe this can be of some help;
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Once you have selected and downloaded the ISO image you can use one of the 'MD5SUM' checkers below to verify a valid download. Then use 'Imgburn' at a low burn rate (setting of 4) to insure a valid burn on your hardware.
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M$Windows:
Windows Burn tutorial <- 'Nero' Live Video for the newbies who burn the iso instead of the image of the iso.
Imgburn <- 'ImgBurn is a lightweight CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application that everyone should have in their toolkit!' + Freeware
-- MD5SUM:
M$Windows iso md5sum checking <- LQ Post on how too
md5sum.exe <- M$Win Application to perform md5sum checking.
winMd5Sum Portable <- FREE + Good for all M$ Windows
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Just a few links to aid you to gaining some understanding;


1
Linux Documentation Project
2
Rute Tutorial & Exposition
3
Linux Command Guide
4
Bash Beginners Guide
5
Bash Reference Manual
6
Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
7
Linux Newbie Admin Guide
8
LinuxSelfHelp
9
Utimate Linux Newbie Guide

The above links and others can be found at '
Slackware-Links'. More than just Slackware® links!
Have fun!
Hope this helps.
 
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