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Old 03-15-2011, 09:57 PM   #1
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My First post: Can a "Vista Ready" laptop handle kde reasonably?


First I want to Say Hello to all of you at linuxquestions! Ive been using Ubuntu(and its derivitives) since Vista BSOD'd on me while working on an important paper(trapped on the HD) back in October and and have loved it since.

However in light of coming waves in the world of Gnome, I'm looking at my options in the event the Gnome shell 3 /Unity (which seem to me like a divided political party -my domain of geekiness stretches from history to computers- )go south.
I am looking for a non gnome options for then . For now i'm thinking of switching to KDE with OpenSuse (since Kbuntu seems poorly integrated from what i've heard) which I've found very little negative about other than the entire Microsoft>mono affair.

What are the main difference in Kde and Suse when compared to run of the mill Ubuntu.
this includes but is not limited to
>File management (will the configuration files in my home folder be compatible?)
>package management( How does suse go about doing this?)
>Window management (Windows style or mac style)
>miscellaneous commands commonly used (i.e sudo, mkdir, rm etc)

And finally how will it run on a laptop (Dell Inspiron 1545) that originally was built with vista in mind? Will compiz still work as well as it does in gnome?

on a side note: how does kde differ from gnome other than appearance differ in relation to the average jane ( my sister, the other user of my laptop, though she mainly uses it for firefox)

feel free to recommend alternatives (other than xubuntu) to the Gnome's or Canonical's plans
 
Old 03-15-2011, 10:15 PM   #2
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On this here Ubuntu box on which I type at this moment (which, by the way, is a Dell Inspiron 1545n with factory installed Ubuntu), I have KDE installed. I also have Gnome (the Ubuntu default) and Fluxbox (my personal favorite).

KDE does not touch non-KDE related config files.

If you want to take a look at KDE, install it on your current Ubuntu box; it's in the Ubuntu repos. You can switch to it at the log in screen from the "Sessions" menu and test it out.

On my netbook, I have Ubuntu 10.10 with Unity installed from scratch. When it installed, it gave me to option of choosing traditional Gnome (I forget the exact wording). Aside: I really don't see the point of Unity. It seems just to be part of Canonical's desire to be contrary.

I simply installed Fluxbox on my netbook and restored my Fluxbox configuration from my Ubuntu 8.04 load from backup and continued to use Fluxbox.

The Linux interface does not work like Windows. You can use any window manager/desktop environment you want on just about any distro, because the window manager/desktop environment sits on top of the OS; it's not part of it. You can have multiple window managers and switch back and forth at will. Slackware comes with about six window managers/desktop environments out of the box. Or you can choose not to use any window manager/desktop environment at all--many servers run without any kind of GUI installed.

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Old 03-15-2011, 10:56 PM   #3
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well to be honest I hadn't thought of that.

Kde behaves independently of the distro then?
Is Kubuntu up to date (4.4?)
 
Old 03-15-2011, 10:56 PM   #4
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What could "Vista Ready" mean...

I believe that an Ubuntu live-cd has the command "lshw" and it will list your hardware. If you want a qualified answer from here, post back with the results.

In general, a system may have the resources, usually enough RAM, to run KDE, but not all will do so in a way that would satisfy a user used to a desktop that is quick and sure.

The easiest way of getting an answer on your own is to download an openSUSE 11.4 KDE live-cd, boot it, and see.

http://software.opensuse.org/114/en

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Old 03-15-2011, 11:18 PM   #5
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Vista ready is likely a sticker on the laptop and a marketing term. It means it meets the Vista minimum requirements, nothing more.

One of the nice things about getting the box with factory-installed Ubuntu (which I fear is no longer an option) is that it doesn't have any of those stickers referring to Other Operating Systems on it.

I actually liked KDE until they came up with that Akonadi thingee which is a Major Annoyance.

Fluxbox rocks.

Edit:

[SNARK MODE ON]

Actually, "Vista Ready" likely means it has more than enough resources to run three KDEs and two Gnomes side by side while also going to pick up the groceries.

[SNARK MODE OFF]

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Old 03-16-2011, 12:15 AM   #6
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the "Vista ready" sticker on the laptop was part of a campaign by microsoft prior to the release of Vista. it was meant to show that the hardware to which it was attached would supposedly run vista. In practice all it guaranteed was that it would run Vista Basic, the very nerfed version of vista without the new aero interface or any eye candy.

you may find that (depending on the specs of your laptop) that kde being the more eye candy driven user interface that it is may not work as smoothly as hoped. by all means try it, experiment etc. but there are alternatives out there if it doesn't run as planned.

hope that helps
 
Old 03-16-2011, 12:41 AM   #7
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Check what your VGA card is. When you have that, run a search on Google KDE performance <your card type>. KDE is known for running real sluggish on some cards (mostly NVIDIA). If you have such a card be prepared to run another desktop. That having said, if you have a VGA card which is nicely compatible frankbell s snark statement is completely true. I run KDE4 on my wife s netbook without any speed issues at all. Try that with Vista!

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Old 03-16-2011, 12:50 AM   #8
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well finished installing, and it's really nice... though now nearly all my program settings need to be reset.
 
Old 03-16-2011, 12:59 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadogamon View Post
well finished installing, and it's really nice... though now nearly all my program settings need to be reset.
glad it's all working nice mate

aaah the joys of resetting program settings...
 
Old 03-16-2011, 03:30 AM   #10
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If you would like to try a different distro besides OpenSuse, be sure to check out Mandriva 2010.2, it comes with a nicely integrated KDE and Gnome. I run the Gnome version on my Acer Aspire One.

Just a thought!
 
Old 03-20-2011, 12:23 PM   #11
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mandriva? I may check it out I love the amount of options I have. Thanks for all the help guys
 
  


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