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Old 04-02-2005, 05:49 PM   #1
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My first network


Hi there

I have a broadband internet connection on a Windows Me box, and I want my linux machine to connect to the internet through it. Both machines have ethernet cards that have never found a problem getting online, but constantly unplugging the cable is getting nippy.

The most unobtrusive way I can think to start is to switch the windows Pc to USB internet (my Motorola Surfboard has both options) freeing up the card for a crossover to the Linux Pc.

The Windows PC is a celeron with a fast etherlink and the linux is a p2 with a netgear.

Is this plausible? I don't want to have to splash out on hubs and switches or open the machine. Will I be able to run a terminal in Windows

Thanks
 
Old 04-02-2005, 06:06 PM   #2
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sounds plausible.

Question though... If your ADSL modem has both connections can they both be used simultaneously?

I've seen ADSL Modem/Router that allow both the USB and Ethernet connection to be used on separate machines at the same time.
 
Old 04-03-2005, 05:59 AM   #3
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Have you looked into Samba?
 
Old 04-03-2005, 02:58 PM   #4
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I would do it right, get a switch. OR The cheap way put another NIC in your windose box and bridge the connections. I haven't had good luck networking over USB. Even a hub would work you can get one for about $4.

Good Luck
 
Old 04-03-2005, 03:25 PM   #5
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Depending on how your broadband supplier has set there system up, you are more than likley not going to be able to connect one to USB and the other to Ethernet. The same goes if you just put a switch/hub in there.
I'm in england useing blueyonder with a Motorola Surfboard and it won't work that way.

The best method is to get a router in there. Most of the home grade ones have a switch built in to connect to your machines.
 
Old 04-03-2005, 03:57 PM   #6
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Most broadband companies lets you have up to two computers connect to the internet. All you need is hub if you want to go cheap although this can create a very high security risk. I recommend getting a consumer grade router from linksys, netgear, datalink, etc and it is also as cheap as a hub. The hard part about using a hub, switch, or router is connecting the patch cable to it. The easy part is accessing the internet.

I do not recommend using USB for the internet because it has much higher latency than a stand alone modem that has a RJ-45 connector or LAN connection.
 
Old 04-03-2005, 05:30 PM   #7
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You could add a additional NIC for $10-$20 (Would work for the most part)
OR
You could add a router for $50-$100 (Better Choice)

Speaking of routers in the $50-$100 range, I have used the Netgear, Linksys/Cisco, and D-Link. I like the Netgear best out of the box. The Wireless signal is better the others, and it will to MAC address reservation. Next is the Linksys after a firmware upgrade it becomes useful. The D-Link in my opinion is the cheapest.

Question: do you have CABLE or DSL?

If you have DSL I would consider replacing your current DSL router with a Cisco 678, you have to use telnet to manage it but it is VERY stable. So stable I set one up at my motherís house almost 5 years ago and havenít had to touch it.

If you have CABLE I would consider getting the linksys cable modem/router.

A word of caution if you go for the WRT45G avoid Ver. 2.0 I have had 2 of them just stop broadcasting then die, and no one knows way. On the other hand my 2-year-old original WRT45G runs great.

Anyway Good Luck
 
Old 04-03-2005, 05:32 PM   #8
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Originally posted by Andrew Benton
Have you looked into Samba?
How would Samba help?
 
Old 04-03-2005, 05:37 PM   #9
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Thanks for the help.

My blueyonder cablemodem is one at a time only. Eventually I'll be adding other computers to the network so I'll need routers and hubs and all that, but I just want to test a quick-fix solution first. However, you've given me a lot to look into.

Not knowing anything about it, is cat5 crossover the same as the xbox cable?

I'm not worried about latency for internet just yet, just as long as it's actually all connected up...
 
Old 04-03-2005, 05:58 PM   #10
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Eventually I'll be adding other computers to the network so I'll need routers and hubs and all that,
A Linux box makes an excellent router/firewall. I would recommend that instead of connecting through that other OS. The benefits are that you can plug in a firewall script and squid/DansGuardian filter/web cache to perk up performance and have some control over what comes and goes. This is better protection for that other OS if you must have it on your LAN. If you are serious about networking, be very careful to de-louse that other OS and keep it clean. There is no point in providing bandwidth for spammers and virii. That portal Linux box can also provide a local web server with LAMP and web applications...

NICs are a little more expensive per connection than switches. Usually, at four connections and more, it is cheaper to use a switch than multiple NICs.
 
  


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