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Old 11-29-2013, 03:09 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by tyko View Post
By "reliable" I don't mean secure. I mean that it shouldn't lose my data: maintain my data across hibernations, shouldn't freeze etc.
It seems to me that most Linux distros' priority for bug-fixes is security, but that isn't my priority.

Also, reliability should be maintained after updates.
I doubt you will run into much "lose my data", if at all. I have never run into that in any of the many different Linux distros I've used. Some application might "not work right" due to a bug, but that is not the same as "lose data". If you venture off into the newest-lastest-greatest filesystem then you might have issues. But if you stick to the standards like ext3, ext4, etc. then you're good to go. And if you stay away from the newest "nightly build" of an application, chances are good that this will insulate you from new development bugs. I don't know anything about hibernation as I don't use a laptop with Linux. It is rare, but I have had a few apps lock up under Linux. But unlike Windows, it is easy to kill the rogue app under Linux and be on your way.

It is true that most things in Linux will concentrate on security and fixing existing bugs before adding new features. This is in contrast to what you typically see in the Windows world. It is one of the basic differences in the two operating systems, IMHO. I doubt you will find too many Linux distros that ignore security concerns in favor of new features. That's just the way it is.

I have found all Linux distros to be very stable when upgrading software. The only time I had an issue is many years ago when I did a dist-upgrade on a Debian system. One minor little thing went wrong there in Xorg. It was easy to fix. But someone not experienced in Linux may have paniced when they were faced with a black screen and command line prompt after rebooting. To them, this would have been judged a system-killing upgrade. Actually, it was only one small configuration change required, and everything was good-to-go after that. Bottom line: If you do experience some issue after an upgrade, don't panic, and come here and ask for advice instead. It's probably just a minor little thing no matter how bad it initially appears.
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I say it changes as well depending on hardware and updates,,, over the years PCBSD has been good to me but not on a few and more often Debian...
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I love my Debian, Fedora and ElementaryOS.... but I HATE the actual Ubuntu distribution from Canonical. Yes Elementary is based off of Ubuntu, but it doesn't use Unity.

In my experience, Debian is great for stability on non-specialty hardware that is NOT among the newest on the market. I use Fedora for my newest and greatest consumer hardware at home, but it can be flakey at times.

ElementaryOS is great and stable to me with a nice UI - and while in beta... I've been developing a highly modified kernel and running it as well. Try some liveCDs
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I'll just echo what has been said before:
Debian Stable, Slackware, CentOS or Scientific Linux (though I haven't experience of the last two on real hardware) are probably the best bet for stability. I'm a little lazy to use Slackware but in many ways I prefer it to Debian because I think the lack of dependency resolution and the fact daemons aren't started by default when they're installed makes for a more stable, less bloated and more secure system.
For "not breaking things when you update" I would not go for Fedora or Debian Testing or Unstable (Sid). You can be careful with updates and avoid all trouble but it takes some work to stop breakages and just updating without due care can break things.
For file systems I'm a bit leery of BTRFS at the moment because I used it on my USB 3 drive and one day I seemed to just lose my file system. I think it was due to having too short an idle time for spindown so I can't be sure it wouldn't happen to an ETX4 partition but nevertheless I went back to EXT4 for it.
For hibernation, my EEE PC has always been fine under the Debian based distributions I've used on it (early Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Linux Mint Debian Edition and Debian Sid). However, I've not had any of them let me hibernate my desktop machines with issues ranging from losing sound (on both systems) to simply ignoring the hibernation (on my new system trying to re-enable hibernation). I put some of it down to my ignorance and, in my old system, having a separate sound card. My conclusion, however, is that if hibernation works well on your hardware you'll likely have no bother but if it doesn't it may not matter which distro you choose.

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(no freeze, hangs, data loss due to crash),
That should be every distribution. Are you sure you don't have hardware issues?
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Oh, just to add, if you do decide you'd rather go the "unstable" route then I would recommend doing a full install of Fedora and Debian (Testing or Unstable [Sid]) either as dual boot or for a trial period and finding which works best for your system. I haven't installed Fedora on a real system for far too long but from what I read some things work well under Fedora that don't under Debian. I would not recommend Debian's less stable releases over Fedora despite my preference for Debian I would say they're equally matched.
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Originally Posted by DavidMcCann View Post
Salix solves both the Slackware problems while keeping its advantages.
I see not having having automatic dependency resolving as one of Slackware's advantages, so I have to disagree with that. It highly depends on your actual needs how you rate dependency resolution, so this as a general statement is flawed.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:54 AM   #24
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Thanks a lot and sorry for late reply.

Reply to dugan and TobiSGD:

Originally Posted by dugan View Post
Are you sure you don't have hardware issues?
I've been using Mint 15 Cinnamon and other users are also facing the same issues:

Hibernation data is lost because of hang while shutting down: Forum, so many "same here"'s.
Freezing issue: bugs.launchpad.
Sometimes no sound after booting and have to restart: bugs.launchpad.
I've faced some other bugs too. "Many Minor Glitches Make Mint 15 More Work Than It's Worth" - Linux Insider Review.

Originally Posted by TobiSGD View Post
It would help us to help you if you tell us which applications you need and which of them you need preferably in the latest version.
Don't need help in this as my applications' requirements are few and basic, thanks


My experience with different distros mentioned on this thread:

Kubuntu LTS 12.04.3 (I prefer KDE over Unity)
Installer crashed when I was choosing partitions. ( Core i3 Ivy Bridge 2.5Ghz, 6GB RAM )

openSUSE 13.1 KDE-Live
Installer gave error that it's not able to unmount a partition. openSUSE had automatically mounted the first swap partition. It wouldn't require swap with 6GB RAM. But it gave me option to continue the installation. It didn't allow me to have a single character as username; this is not an account creation on a website. After the first system start, I hibernated it but then on the boot it hanged. Holding down the power button of laptop didn't shut it and had to take out the battery.

Salix 14.0.1 Xfce
The same hibernation bug as openSUSE. As the default LILO installed with Salix wasn't listing other operating-systems, the next thing I tried after testing hibernation, was using Salix's pre-installed GUI application for configuring LILO, but encountered another bug.

The hibernation bug affected only the first hibernation in both openSUSE and Salix, subsequent hibernations worked in both.

Debian 7.1 net-installation
After the installation was complete, it didn't allow me to login using the password I had set. I found out from forums that it doesn't allow logging in as root into desktop-environment. I had created only root account and during installation it didn't give me any warning that I won't be able to login into desktop-environment. Salix did give me this warning so I created another account during Salix installation.

Debian 7.2 KDE-live
Problem with hardware support: Internet was slow - I tried the internet on two different days switching between Mint, didn't detect bluetooth and detected touchpad as normal mouse so no edge scrolling. I don't blame Debian for these. I downloaded Chrome installation from Chrome's website, opening the ".deb", Debian gave error: "Your current backend does not support installing files". Its KDE didn't have a feature which I want, that must be due to it using an older version of KDE.

CentOS 6.4
I didn't try it after this thread because I've already tried it as the first Linux distro I've installed. During the graphical installation, after I had tick-marked on what all to install, it gave an error that a dependency is not being satisfied; I was expecting that by marking something during installation, all its dependencies should automatically get marked. Then it neither gave me a button "include all dependencies", nor "whatever package is causing trouble, uncheck that package". When setting password, it first gave error that length is too short, then after I increased the length, it gave error that the password is too simple. Logging into the desktop-environment, the bug reporter tool said that there's a problem. Just opening add/remove programs gave another error, when I searched it on net, some other CentOS/Fedora users were also getting the same error. Then I wanted to do something simple (I don't remember what) and I had to spend a lot of time to do that. After my experience with CentOS, I shifted to Mint.

Didn't try Scientific as already tried CentOS and don't like some things about Red Hat.

PC-BSD 9-Stable USB Live
When I booted from USB installation, the first question it asked me was that whether I want to boot into single user or multi-user. I didn't know what that means so I let it do the default action. Next question it asked that do I want to expand the file system. I didn't know this also so I let it make the default choice. Then it gave some output and stopped, there was no question on the screen, I hit 'enter' key and it rebooted into blank screen.

Slackware 14.1
The only Linux distro which let me enter the desktop-environment as root user and that too when I hadn't set any password for root. But it would need time to be completely set up, especially when it didn't detect bluetooth and detected touchpad as normal mouse. (I don't blame it for bluetooth and touchpad)

I'm not asking for further advice; I shared as someone else reaching this thread because of having the same question may want to know. The suggestions you guys have given me are correct; I asked for most reliable Linux distro for desktop usage, and the ones you've suggested are actually the most reliable; thanks again
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Most reliable distro for desktop usage?

Try Mint 16. It got updated this month and so far hasn't crashed on my computer.
Many bugs have gotten fixed.

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