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Old 12-31-2012, 10:00 AM   #1
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Smile Most Linux Installers do not recognize USB 3.0 External HDD


I had tried many installation,
Fedora, Opensuse, Mandriva, Mageia, Ubuntu, Zorin,
Deepin.......

They do not recognize USB 3 HDD if you plug it in the USB 3.0 port, you have to plug it in the USB 2.0 port.

After Installation,
Zorin, and Opensuse can boot it from USB 3.0 port,
but others Distro can not, you have to boot it from USB2.0 port.
And the speed will be slow,
spoil my purpose of buying a USB 3 HDD,

Can anyone answer why is it like that?
I though Linux should have supported well USB 3.0.
 
Old 12-31-2012, 12:45 PM   #2
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It's because USB 3.0 support is not compiled into the kernel used by the installer and/or the required module (driver) is not included in the installer ramdisk image.

This situation is likely to improve in the near future, as USB 3.0 controllers become more common. In the meantime, it is always possible to use USB 2.0 ports during installation.
 
Old 12-31-2012, 02:56 PM   #3
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I am wondering why you can only load to usb 2.0 in OpenSuse but yet run in 3.0? Guess you booted to the cd and it may be some issue with how your system see's the cd or maybe the loader? Dunno, it should have been able to see the usb 3.0 if you say it runs later...

Did you use the latest OpenSuse?


Guess it could be a bios issue or timing issue at boot or even power issue. Can you boot to bios and view this usb 3.0 device when attached to the usb 3.0 port?

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Old 12-31-2012, 06:43 PM   #4
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I tested on Opensuse 12.3 Milestone 2, the latest.
When I plug in my HDD to USB 3 port, the file manager can read it.
But I don't know why, when come to installation,
the installer says /dev/sdb can not be recognized.
 
Old 12-31-2012, 07:13 PM   #5
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You could always install linux inside linux.

http://www.debian.org/releases/stabl...apds03.html.en

Then you'll only have to conquer the bootloader being able to use usb3 issues. I almost prefer doing an install this way. It lets me create a tarball of the install and just one pass it onto a fresh and clean filesystem. Plus most of my new installs go to limited number of writes pen drives. Or really old machines that no longer have working fans. Somehow a $5 stick is more appealing to me than a makes a lot of noise and heat $100 drive that might not even work out of the box. 6yo laptop keeps on ticking and all that jazz. Good for light web browsing and a network bridge device to avoid buying hardware that you already technically have.
 
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:23 AM   #6
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I'd look at that more. Might be a bug in the installer or the way bios works in this system.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 12:54 AM   #7
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Mine is Dell Inspiron Notebook, it has 2 USB2, 2 USB3 ports.

In live CD of opensuse or Fedora, when I plugin the external HDD to usb 3 port,
it reads, File Manager show the partition of NTSF.

My HDD got free Space I want to install linux,
so I launched the installer,
it does not recognize the external hdd which is /dev/sdb
 
Old 01-02-2013, 07:25 AM   #8
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Since you are trying this with a development version I would file a bug against it, so that it can be fixed. If you run the installer, what is the output of
Code:
zcat /proc/config.gz|grep XHCI
What is the output of the same command on the installed system?
 
Old 01-02-2013, 09:11 AM   #9
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I am not sure ,
I had uninstall it from my external HDD,
right now I am using Zorin on my desktop only.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 09:14 AM   #10
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As I said,
all distro I tested, including stable and beta versions,
do not recognized the usb 3 HDD,
whether it is live DVD/CD or direct installer,

in the live CD/DVD, it's file manager recognize the usb 3 HDD,
but when come to installing, it takes long time to wait until it tells you that /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc not readable.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 10:42 AM   #11
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There are so many variables we can't tell. Very few distro's would by default work well with a usb 3 install I'd think. That may change in a few months also as more support is built in. The second issue is every bios in the world. All of them are different. Then you have to consider the usb device.

On some systems you have to boot to bios to first get the usb to get recognized.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 10:55 AM   #12
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No specific USB setting in Bios, by default it is supported,
my HDD got a LED light,
when connected to USB 2, it is white light,
to USB 3 it is blue light,

when I boot up the live CD, it show blue light, means that the linux support usb 3,
but during installation, at the stage of disk partitioning, the drive is not recognized.

I am not sure why?

Only the ArtistX Linux 1.2 can recognize it. But it is a 32bit linux, I do not want it, I want 64bit Opensuse or Fedora.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 11:43 AM   #13
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That is strange. If the kernel supports USB 3.0, which it seems to do in your case, there should be no difference for the installer or OS at all regardless if it is USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 that should be installed to.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 11:48 AM   #14
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I am also feeling strange, this is what really happened.
Is is my Dell Inspiron Bios got problem?
I had upgraded the Bios software in Windows to the latest version.

For Mandriva, Mageia, Ubuntu, installation is done thru usb 2, after that, it can only boot if the disk is plugged to usb 2 port, usb 3 does not boot, it hanged.

For opensuse, it can boot from usb 2 and also 3.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 11:51 AM   #15
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I also tried Deepin ( am I crazy? ),
it can't install thru usb 3, but usb 2.
After installation and bootloader was written on the external drive,
I boot it, it does not boot if it is connected to usb 3.

---------- Post added 01-03-13 at 12:51 AM ----------

I can't try it on Desktop, because my desktop is old, onlt got usb 2 ports.
 
  


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