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Old 06-22-2008, 05:46 AM   #1
hoarkV
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Monitor problem


!--Problem Solved--!


Hello everybody,

i finally decided to become a linux user and installed the SuSE 11 distribution on my PC. I first got a black screen after the kernel loaded, then a "sync out range" message from my monitor. (I already experienced the same problem trying to install ubuntu and pclinuxos).
I searched through the forum a found some threads dealing with the same problem. It seems to be a problem with the refresh rates.
So since the failsafe mode works fine i tried to reconfigure the preferences of x11 with Sax2 where i found some false refresh rates. I changed them from HorizSync 60-85 VertRefresh 100-160 to the correct rates of 30-85 and 50-160. I still get the out of range message. What else can I do?

And - sorry if this question sounds stupid - Why does the fail safe mode works fine with my monitor and isnt there a way to see which preference the failsafe mode uses for my monitor?

Thank you very much in advance!



Im using a AMD Athlon 64 3200+
MSI 6600 LE Video Card
Synmaster 755 DFX

Last edited by hoarkV; 06-24-2008 at 04:36 PM. Reason: the first rate was not correct. still the same problem
 
Old 06-22-2008, 06:40 AM   #2
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XF86Config

in case youd like to take a look at my XF86Config file...


Section "Monitor"
Option "CalcAlgorithm" "XServerPool"
DisplaySize 345 259
HorizSync 30-85
Identifier "Monitor[0]"
ModelName "SYNCMASTER 755DF(T)"
Option "DPMS"
Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768"
VendorName "SAMSUNG"
VertRefresh 50-160
UseModes "Modes[0]"
EndSection


Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes[0]"
Modeline "1024x768" 94 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
EndSection


Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection[/CODE]

Last edited by hoarkV; 06-22-2008 at 07:54 AM. Reason: ...was mazbe a little to much info...
 
Old 06-22-2008, 07:10 AM   #3
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The fail safe mode does not use the xserver
If you have not yet solve this problem start in the failsafe mode yast.2>hardware>graphic card and monitor.
It will probe you,re card and monitor again.
It will test it if the setting are ok
Off course you also can change manually
If the settings are OK save
If you use a modern monitor max refresh rate is about 60 to 70
Problem is that some monitor keep working , but only give the warning input out off range.

all the best
 
Old 06-22-2008, 07:28 AM   #4
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hi ronlau9,

thanks for your reply.

Quote:
If you have not yet solve this problem start in the failsafe mode yast.2>hardware>graphic card and monitor.
It will probe you,re card and monitor again.
It will test it if the setting are ok
I've already tried this. When i let it test my monitor turns black, and i have no reaction on my keyboard. I have to restart the system.

Quote:
If you use a modern monitor max refresh rate is about 60 to 70
Are you talking about horizontal or vertical rate?

greetz

h.
 
Old 06-22-2008, 09:07 AM   #5
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Unhappy log files

these are links to the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and Xorg.99.log

Links

There seem to be some problems, but since i'm totally new to linux (i'm using SUSE since 24 hours ) i don't know what to do now. i've searched a lot threads with similar problems but it didnt really help.

best regards

Last edited by hoarkV; 06-23-2008 at 08:36 AM. Reason: Links deleted. If anybody likes to take a look at these files just ask.
 
Old 06-22-2008, 09:10 AM   #6
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Vertical max 60 t0 70 max horizontal 85


all the best
 
Old 06-22-2008, 09:14 AM   #7
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If you are using an LCD monitor, the refresh rate works a little bit differently than a standard CRT monitor. I haven't used SuSE in a while (I switched over to Kubuntu when Novell and Microsoft got so chummy), I would think that the monitor selection is similar. What you might want to try is going through the generic monitor list and look for something in the LCD Flat Panel group that matches the resolution of your monitor. (For instance, my SyncMaster 205BW is 1680x1050.) Select a generic profile that matches your monitor's settings and give that a shot. LCDs usually will all work at 60Hz, so if there is a profile that says something like "Generic LCD Flat Panel 1680x1050 @ 60Hz" select that. (substitute your resolution where applicable...)
 
Old 06-22-2008, 01:56 PM   #8
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Problem not solved yet

thanx for your reply ssarasin,

i'm using a crt flat monitor (Syncmaster 755DFX), not a lcd. I tried to use a different monitor profile anyway, but it didn't help.

@ronlau9: same problem, even with lower rates...

isnt there anything in the log files that could help me?

Last edited by hoarkV; 06-23-2008 at 08:35 AM.
 
Old 06-22-2008, 02:12 PM   #9
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what is the correct vga mode to write in my bootloader? could that be the problem?
 
Old 06-22-2008, 02:46 PM   #10
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Im do not know if it will help but the most used resolution for crt monitor are :
SVGA 800 X 600
XGA 1024 X 768
SXGA 1280 X 1024
UxGA 1600 X 1200
ref rate depending on the resolution

all the best
 
Old 06-22-2008, 04:57 PM   #11
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i now reconfigured the xorg using xorgconfig in the terminal. Instead of the "sync out of range" message i now get an error saying that the x server could not be loaded and the "fatal error: screen not found" or something like that.
 
Old 06-23-2008, 10:20 AM   #12
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i have no idea what else to try. if any of you linux professionals could give me a hint i'd be very grateful
 
Old 06-24-2008, 04:30 PM   #13
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I solved the problem by installing the current NVIDIA-Driver from http://opensuse-community.org/1-click-collection and reconfiguring Sax2:
Code:
sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia
 
  


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