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06-22-2008, 05:46 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Germany
Distribution: SUSE 11, Windows XP
Posts: 9
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Monitor problem
!--Problem Solved--!
Hello everybody,
i finally decided to become a linux user and installed the SuSE 11 distribution on my PC. I first got a black screen after the kernel loaded, then a "sync out range" message from my monitor. (I already experienced the same problem trying to install ubuntu and pclinuxos).
I searched through the forum a found some threads dealing with the same problem. It seems to be a problem with the refresh rates.
So since the failsafe mode works fine i tried to reconfigure the preferences of x11 with Sax2 where i found some false refresh rates. I changed them from HorizSync 60-85 VertRefresh 100-160 to the correct rates of 30-85 and 50-160. I still get the out of range message. What else can I do?
And - sorry if this question sounds stupid - Why does the fail safe mode works fine with my monitor and isnt there a way to see which preference the failsafe mode uses for my monitor?
Thank you very much in advance!
Im using a AMD Athlon 64 3200+
MSI 6600 LE Video Card
Synmaster 755 DFX
Last edited by hoarkV; 06-24-2008 at 04:36 PM.
Reason: the first rate was not correct. still the same problem
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06-22-2008, 06:40 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Germany
Distribution: SUSE 11, Windows XP
Posts: 9
Original Poster
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XF86Config
in case youd like to take a look at my XF86Config file...
Section "Monitor"
Option "CalcAlgorithm" "XServerPool"
DisplaySize 345 259
HorizSync 30-85
Identifier "Monitor[0]"
ModelName "SYNCMASTER 755DF(T)"
Option "DPMS"
Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768"
VendorName "SAMSUNG"
VertRefresh 50-160
UseModes "Modes[0]"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes[0]"
Modeline "1024x768" 94 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
EndSection
Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection[/CODE]
Last edited by hoarkV; 06-22-2008 at 07:54 AM.
Reason: ...was mazbe a little to much info...
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06-22-2008, 07:10 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2007
Location: In front of my LINUX OR MAC BOX
Distribution: Mandriva 2009 X86_64 suse 11.3 X86_64 Centos X86_64 Debian X86_64 Linux MInt 86_64 OS X
Posts: 2,354
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The fail safe mode does not use the xserver
If you have not yet solve this problem start in the failsafe mode yast.2>hardware>graphic card and monitor.
It will probe you,re card and monitor again.
It will test it if the setting are ok
Off course you also can change manually
If the settings are OK save
If you use a modern monitor max refresh rate is about 60 to 70
Problem is that some monitor keep working , but only give the warning input out off range.
all the best
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06-22-2008, 07:28 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Germany
Distribution: SUSE 11, Windows XP
Posts: 9
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hi ronlau9,
thanks for your reply.
Quote:
If you have not yet solve this problem start in the failsafe mode yast.2>hardware>graphic card and monitor.
It will probe you,re card and monitor again.
It will test it if the setting are ok
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I've already tried this. When i let it test my monitor turns black, and i have no reaction on my keyboard. I have to restart the system.
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If you use a modern monitor max refresh rate is about 60 to 70
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Are you talking about horizontal or vertical rate?
greetz
h.
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06-22-2008, 09:07 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Germany
Distribution: SUSE 11, Windows XP
Posts: 9
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log files
these are links to the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and Xorg.99.log
Links
There seem to be some problems, but since i'm totally new to linux (i'm using SUSE since 24 hours  ) i don't know what to do now. i've searched a lot threads with similar problems but it didnt really help.
best regards
Last edited by hoarkV; 06-23-2008 at 08:36 AM.
Reason: Links deleted. If anybody likes to take a look at these files just ask.
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06-22-2008, 09:10 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2007
Location: In front of my LINUX OR MAC BOX
Distribution: Mandriva 2009 X86_64 suse 11.3 X86_64 Centos X86_64 Debian X86_64 Linux MInt 86_64 OS X
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Vertical max 60 t0 70 max horizontal 85
all the best
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06-22-2008, 09:14 AM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2007
Location: South Bend, Indiana
Distribution: Kubuntu 8.04 64bit, 32bit & PPC
Posts: 30
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If you are using an LCD monitor, the refresh rate works a little bit differently than a standard CRT monitor. I haven't used SuSE in a while (I switched over to Kubuntu when Novell and Microsoft got so chummy), I would think that the monitor selection is similar. What you might want to try is going through the generic monitor list and look for something in the LCD Flat Panel group that matches the resolution of your monitor. (For instance, my SyncMaster 205BW is 1680x1050.) Select a generic profile that matches your monitor's settings and give that a shot. LCDs usually will all work at 60Hz, so if there is a profile that says something like "Generic LCD Flat Panel 1680x1050 @ 60Hz" select that. (substitute your resolution where applicable...)
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06-22-2008, 01:56 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Germany
Distribution: SUSE 11, Windows XP
Posts: 9
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Problem not solved yet
thanx for your reply ssarasin,
i'm using a crt flat monitor (Syncmaster 755DFX), not a lcd. I tried to use a different monitor profile anyway, but it didn't help.
@ronlau9: same problem, even with lower rates...
isnt there anything in the log files that could help me?
Last edited by hoarkV; 06-23-2008 at 08:35 AM.
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06-22-2008, 02:12 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Germany
Distribution: SUSE 11, Windows XP
Posts: 9
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what is the correct vga mode to write in my bootloader? could that be the problem?
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06-22-2008, 02:46 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2007
Location: In front of my LINUX OR MAC BOX
Distribution: Mandriva 2009 X86_64 suse 11.3 X86_64 Centos X86_64 Debian X86_64 Linux MInt 86_64 OS X
Posts: 2,354
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Im do not know if it will help but the most used resolution for crt monitor are :
SVGA 800 X 600
XGA 1024 X 768
SXGA 1280 X 1024
UxGA 1600 X 1200
ref rate depending on the resolution
all the best
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06-22-2008, 04:57 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Germany
Distribution: SUSE 11, Windows XP
Posts: 9
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i now reconfigured the xorg using xorgconfig in the terminal. Instead of the "sync out of range" message i now get an error saying that the x server could not be loaded and the "fatal error: screen not found" or something like that.
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06-23-2008, 10:20 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Germany
Distribution: SUSE 11, Windows XP
Posts: 9
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i have no idea what else to try. if any of you linux professionals could give me a hint i'd be very grateful 
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06-24-2008, 04:30 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Germany
Distribution: SUSE 11, Windows XP
Posts: 9
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I solved the problem by installing the current NVIDIA-Driver from http://opensuse-community.org/1-click-collection and reconfiguring Sax2:
Code:
sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia
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