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Old 04-07-2014, 03:10 PM   #1
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Mint Petra- Cannot browse or open folders w/o HD going to 100%


I do not know how to fix this problem. I have searched all over the web and nothing. If I double click any folder or try to browse any folder the hard drive activity goes to 100% and the computer slows to a crawl. I have to reboot to fix it. Its a real PITA!

When I view sysmon I see kworker and 1 other (cant remember) using the processes.

Where to start?
 
Old 04-07-2014, 08:25 PM   #2
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You could try opening a terminal and running top. Then, with the terminal still open and top running, browse the folders on the HDD and note what process(es) float to the top in top; that should give you an idea of which processes are spiking.

Please tell us more: What make/model computer, what processor, how many RAMs, which Mint desktop?
 
Old 04-07-2014, 09:46 PM   #3
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vostro laptop 2 gigs memory and 2.x cpu linux mint petra

I ran top and the only thing that came up extra was "nemo" at 5% cpu

The top 5 items with 5% cpu each were cinnamon, Xorg, gnome-system-mo, nemo with a total cpu load of 15-20 bouncing. I did notice that with everything closed and only top running my cpu load was jumping up and down between 6-13% and after opening folder cpu load went to 15-20% with HD activity pegged at 100% now (after opening any folder). I cannot close the open folder it says wait/force not responding.

Is there a way to "reset" the system to default settings? I just want to get this working again its a giant PITA not being able to open ANY folders on my laptop.
 
Old 04-07-2014, 10:19 PM   #4
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If I run IOTOP I can see the disk IO go to 95.80% when I try to open a folder. If I force the folder closed or kill nemo process the disk IO goes to 0% again but I lose all desktop items. If I type nemo at command line I get errors.

** (nemo:4453): WARNING **: Can not calculate _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS

** (nemo:4453): WARNING **: Can not calculate _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS

** (nemo:4453): WARNING **: Can not get _NET_WORKAREA

** (nemo:4453): WARNING **: Can not determine workarea, guessing at layout

If I reboot all is good again until I open a folder.

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Old 04-08-2014, 05:22 PM   #5
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Anyone?
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:34 PM   #6
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I have not experienced anything like this and I've used Mint MATE edition off and on for a couple of years, but Mint MATE uses caja, not nemo.

As a test, I'd suggest using mc in a terminal (mc--Midnight Commander--is a command line file manager similar to the old Norton Commander for DOS) and caja and seeing whether you get the same CPU spike from either one. Both should be in the repos.

This will help determine whether the issue lies with nemo or is some larger system problem.

Please also remember that this is a volunteer forum. It may take a while for someone who has an answer to see you post and to respond to it.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:47 PM   #7
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Can I just switch file managers and dump or not use nemo?

Is there a way to "reset" or "default" the mint petra OS back to the way it was after install?
 
Old 04-08-2014, 08:17 PM   #8
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At what point did this problem begin--was it immediately after starting to use your new Mint install or was it after some later change to the system?

You can take it back to default by uninstalling everything you've installed since loading it on the HDD or by backing up your data and doing a fresh install. There may be other ways I don't know of, and I doubt that such drastic action is called for. One of the nice (and sometimes frustrating) things about Linux is that most problems can be fixed without drastic measures.

Before doing something so drastic, it might be a good idea to perform the tests I suggested above to verify that nemo is the issue. If it isn't, you might end up fixing the wrong thing, which is the same as fixing nothing.

If caja, for example, performs better, then you can just use caja and pretend nemo isn't there; in the Mint settings, you can then make caja the default file manager.

On my Debian system, I normally use Konqueror as the file manager, even though Nautilus is the default, because I find Konqueror to be a superior piece of software (I have KDE installed along with Gnome). Nautilus is still there and I use it occasionally (mostly when trying to answer a Nautilus question on LQ), but usually it just takes up a some space on the HDD, which has plenty of room.

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Old 04-11-2014, 11:55 PM   #9
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I tried MC and its not a cpu spike its a HD spike to 100%. I also installed dolphin file browser and it works fine but is not native (I have to right click and "open with") to use it which is a pain.

So it looks like Nemo is causing the issue. Can I swap dolphin for nemo? I just want to be able to double click a folder and have the darned thing open up without locking up the machine. Linux is a real PITA. It takes weeks to fix one issue. About the only good thing is it doesnt get infected. But I have to say winblowz is much easier to use. I have photoshop, office, printers that print, skype that has sound....and I can open the darned folders!!
 
Old 04-12-2014, 12:36 AM   #10
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Does this help???

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Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop colord: Profile added: icc-e39c579c51c678fdbfb9b803b3a15892
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368063] [drm:intel_pipe_config_compare] *ERROR* mismatch in adjusted_mode.flags (expected 2, found 0)
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368068] ------------[ cut here ]------------
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368105] WARNING: CPU: 1 PID: 1483 at /build/buildd/linux-3.11.0/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c:8292 check_crtc_state+0x590/0xb30 [i915]()
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368107] pipe state doesn't match!
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368108] Modules linked in: vmnet(OF) vmw_vmci vmmon(OF) parport_pc(F) ppdev(F) bnep rfcomm joydev(F) bluetooth binfmt_misc(F) coretemp kvm_intel(F) kvm(F) dell_wmi sparse_keymap gpio_ich ip6t_REJECT(F) xt_hl(F) ip6t_rt(F) nf_conntrack_ipv6(F) nf_defrag_ipv6(F) ipt_REJECT(F) xt_LOG(F) xt_limit(F) xt_tcpudp(F) xt_addrtype(F) nf_conntrack_ipv4(F) nf_defrag_ipv4(F) dell_laptop xt_conntrack(F) dcdbas dm_multipath(F) scsi_dh(F) snd_hda_codec_idt snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec microcode(F) snd_hwdep(F) snd_pcm(F) snd_page_alloc(F) snd_seq_midi(F) snd_seq_midi_event(F) snd_rawmidi(F) psmouse(F) serio_raw(F) snd_seq(F) ip6table_filter(F) ip6_tables(F) snd_seq_device(F) nf_conntrack_netbios_ns(F) nf_conntrack_broadcast(F) snd_timer(F) nf_nat_ftp(F) nf_nat(F) nf_conntrack_ftp(F) nf_conntrack(F) iptable_filter(F) ip_tables(F) x_tables(F) snd(F) lpc_ich soundcore(F) lp(F) parport(F) mac_hid dm_mirror(F) dm_region_hash(F) dm_log(F) hid_generic i915 b44 ssb mii(F) i2c_algo_bit usbhid drm_kms_
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: helper video(F) wmi drm hid
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368173] CPU: 1 PID: 1483 Comm: Xorg Tainted: GF W O 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368176] Hardware name: Dell Inc. Vostro 1500 /0NX907, BIOS A05 02/03/2008
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368178] 00000000 00000000 eede98b0 c162566b eede98f0 eede98e0 c105273e f8735d40
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368185] eede990c 000005cb f872d730 00002064 f86e7630 f86e7630 f60fd64c f60fd000
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368191] 0000000a eede98f8 c1052793 00000009 eede98f0 f8735d40 eede990c eede9b60
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368197] Call Trace:
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368205] [<c162566b>] dump_stack+0x41/0x52
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368210] [<c105273e>] warn_slowpath_common+0x7e/0xa0
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368230] [<f86e7630>] ? check_crtc_state+0x590/0xb30 [i915]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368248] [<f86e7630>] ? check_crtc_state+0x590/0xb30 [i915]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368252] [<c1052793>] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x33/0x40
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368271] [<f86e7630>] check_crtc_state+0x590/0xb30 [i915]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368294] [<f86f1ba3>] intel_modeset_check_state+0x2a3/0x760 [i915]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368317] [<f86f20f0>] intel_set_mode+0x30/0x40 [i915]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368336] [<f86f3200>] intel_get_load_detect_pipe+0x230/0x3a0 [i915]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368362] [<f8712767>] intel_tv_detect+0xe7/0x4a0 [i915]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368380] [<f854b6bb>] ? drm_get_edid+0x2b/0x270 [drm]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368388] [<f844b458>] drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes+0x1b8/0x340 [drm_kms_helper]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368408] [<f854719d>] drm_mode_getconnector+0x2fd/0x350 [drm]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368425] [<f8546ea0>] ? drm_mode_getcrtc+0xc0/0xc0 [drm]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368437] [<f8539d5a>] drm_ioctl+0x49a/0x540 [drm]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368455] [<f8546ea0>] ? drm_mode_getcrtc+0xc0/0xc0 [drm]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368468] [<f85398c0>] ? drm_copy_field+0x70/0x70 [drm]
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368473] [<c117a196>] do_vfs_ioctl+0x2e6/0x4e0
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368477] [<c116c411>] ? __sb_end_write+0x31/0x70
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368480] [<c116a845>] ? vfs_write+0x155/0x1b0
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368484] [<c117a3f0>] SyS_ioctl+0x60/0x80
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368488] [<c1632ccd>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28
Apr 11 22:25:37 laptop kernel: [ 33.368490] ---[ end trace c566dd6b07921aea ]---
 
Old 04-12-2014, 02:35 AM   #11
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Linux is a real PITA. It takes weeks to fix one issue. About the only good thing is it doesnt get infected. But I have to say winblowz is much easier to use. I have photoshop, office, printers that print, skype that has sound....and I can open the darned folders!!
Well that's a great way to encourage people to help you.
NOT
So did you get off your backside and search ?. I see a fix for this issued in October last year in 3.11.4.
 
Old 04-12-2014, 10:28 AM   #12
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Yeah I searched and tried to fix it myself for --->2<--- months before posting here, which is how long its been broken. This post has been up for a week and ONLY once I complain about something does someone come in and say there is some obscure magical hidden secret fix (but we arent going to post a link just to punish you).

Classy!

I moved to Linux to escape the infections but I did NOT want to trade infections for stability which is what I have done.


Im getting very tired of fighting Mint anyway. Its been broken for as long as its been installed. It started off with no updates, then no skype sound, then locked up and would reboot, then I couldnt access it, then nemo broke, then folders wont open. And now the super secret hidden fix that cannot be shared, which I do NOT believe exists. One nightmare after another!

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Old 04-13-2014, 10:04 AM   #13
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I had a similar problem on a Windows 8/8.1 laptop. It may or may not apply to you, I honestly don't know, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway. I got it new, and from the beginning, it would constantly lock up to the point where all I could do was move my mouse. If Task Manager was open when it would lock up, it would show the disk I/O at 95-100%, and it was backed up by the hard drive LED being almost solid on. It turns out that the problem was either a bad HDD or a bad mobo. Personally, I think it was the HDD.

[RANT]But Dell decided to replace the mobo as well. The replacement mobo wouldn't work at all with sleep if I went away for more than 30 minutes. After ~30 mins, it would just die, and anything unsaved would be lost. So they replaced the mobo again. It sleeps fine now, but the hardware clock freezes during sleep. So if I put it to sleep at 11PM Monday night, and open it up at 8AM Tuesday morning, the clock still says "11PM Monday." So in the next few weeks, I'll call them again, probably get another mobo, and then I'll have to see what's wrong with the new one. It helps that the help and support people have heavy accents that nobody can understand. So that's why I'm never buying a Dell again.[/RANT]
 
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Dolphin should be in the Mint repos, so you should be able to install it via Synaptic.

I would not recommend trying to remove nemo. Just don't use it.
 
  


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