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ogdemster 07-29-2008 06:34 AM

minimum linux installation
 
hey ppl

i have tried many linux distrubutions and i could not decide which one is the best for me. many unneeded things on them.

and i decided to have minimal installation that i can install everything myself. to learn, to see whatever. i have enough time to do. i dont care how hard it is.

my question. what linux wants to work ??

thanks for any reply

jomen 07-29-2008 06:38 AM

You have time and want to learn:
Gentoo or Slackware or even LFS

oskar 07-29-2008 06:40 AM

Any distribution that has a net install option: Ubuntu. I think Fedora and Debian do too.
Debian in any case.
I predict the next 10 consecutive posts to tell you to install Gentoo, Slackware, DSL, Puppy or LFS. I cannot approve of that :P

edit:
jomen was faster.

jomen 07-29-2008 06:44 AM

Debian is a good one too ;) - not very easy to really make it small IMO

Mohtek 07-29-2008 06:51 AM

Debian gets my vote too :)
 
installing the base system via netinst will give you the basic system...in my view, great for the basis of a server as it will not install a window manager or unneeded apps. In addition, apt-get is a fantastic package management system, and is a great tool for getting it all installed.

There was a Linux from Scratch project going on a few years ago, though I'm not sure if its still around

ogdemster 07-29-2008 07:08 AM

Debian netinst = http 404 page not found pff

Mohtek 07-29-2008 07:12 AM

Here is the link:
 
http://www.debian.com/CD/netinst/
Do'h! I didn't test the link until now :(
My apologies

jomen 07-29-2008 07:15 AM

Ask Google - or navigate the Debian site - it is not hard to find:
http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst

using this approach - not reading/searching - you won't get very far

oskar 07-29-2008 07:16 AM

Here for Ubuntu:
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dis...mages/netboot/

clint1986 07-29-2008 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ogdemster (Post 3229700)
Debian netinst = http 404 page not found pff

They could be doing some maintenance at the moment. I can't get at any images either, so I don't think it is just you. Be patient, they'll be back soon enough. :)

oskar 07-29-2008 07:19 AM

I'd like to add that all things are "unneeded" until you need them. I am very happy about the bloat that modern distributions provide, so I don't need to plow the internet every time I need a tool for something. Unless you are very short on disk space I think it's better to go with the bloat. It's your decision of course, I won't stop you.

pixellany 07-29-2008 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oskar (Post 3229710)
I'd like to add that all things are "unneeded" until you need them. I am very happy about the bloat that modern distributions provide, so I don't need to plow the internet every time I need a tool for something. Unless you are very short on disk space I think it's better to go with the bloat. It's your decision of course, I won't stop you.

That first sentence is quite profound....;)

Seriously, my current favorite for "lean and mean" is Arch + Kdemod. The initial install is very compact, and adding new things does not require "plowing the internet"

ogdemster 07-29-2008 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oskar (Post 3229710)
I'd like to add that all things are "unneeded" until you need them. I am very happy about the bloat that modern distributions provide, so I don't need to plow the internet every time I need a tool for something. Unless you are very short on disk space I think it's better to go with the bloat. It's your decision of course, I won't stop you.


i used centos 5. and had to install many things that i need. whats the point to use a distribution or not use them?

farslayer 07-29-2008 08:24 AM

Debian base netinstall.. it's simple to aptitude install anything I need after that point.

With the size of Debians software repositories I rarely have to search the internet for software to download and install, it's all right there at my fingertips, and can be installed in a couple seconds (depending on speed of net connection that is...)

jonabyte 07-29-2008 08:54 AM

you can install ubuntu server and then add what you need like a gui(?) from the command line.

ogdemster 07-29-2008 09:43 AM

well. ty for reply all. ill wait till debian web site works and try ubuntu + debian =).

solution for my question = netinst or installing server only

salasi 07-29-2008 03:24 PM

Well, I've been thinking about giving NimbleX a go. Which raises the idea that the "Custom Nimblex" version/fork/flavour doesn't have anything unnecessary, because you decide what goes in.

But then you'll have looked at distrowatch and considered all of the frugal distros, won't you?

johnson_steve 07-29-2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ogdemster (Post 3229676)
i decided to have minimal installation that i can install everything myself. to learn, to see whatever. i have enough time to do. i dont care how hard it is.

Gentoo :) you install it manually and you will learn a lot about how your system works in the process. the documentation is very good it will walk you through every step and explain what you are doing. when you are done you get a basic system with a compiler, basic utilities, working network connection and a CLI. no GUI included. then you 'emerge' anything else you want. It's not the easiest or the quickest to install, but you said you wanted something minimal that will allow you to learn and install everything yourself and that in a word is Gentoo. If you go this way and need help send me a PM.

ogdemster 07-30-2008 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnson_steve (Post 3230280)
Gentoo :) you install it manually and you will learn a lot about how your system works in the process. the documentation is very good it will walk you through every step and explain what you are doing. when you are done you get a basic system with a compiler, basic utilities, working network connection and a CLI. no GUI included. then you 'emerge' anything else you want. It's not the easiest or the quickest to install, but you said you wanted something minimal that will allow you to learn and install everything yourself and that in a word is Gentoo. If you go this way and need help send me a PM.

could be better. but i already installed centos5. i have a gentoo cd too. after tried all of them. ill write here =)

oskar 07-30-2008 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ogdemster (Post 3229748)
i used centos 5. and had to install many things that i need. whats the point to use a distribution or not use them?

For me the point is ease of use. I dont't want to have to set up samba just to connect to a windows network. Even if I will only have to connect to a win network once or twice - or even more so if I only need it on occasions... same goes for lots and lots of applications.
Install a reader just for a pdf, install extra codecs for a real-media stream.

I use CentOS 5.2 right now, and it's a reasonably bloated distribution IMO. CentOS is definitely not what I'm thinking of when I say "minimalistic system"

I just don't get why people will automatically shout "GENTOO, SLACKWARE" everytime a thread like this comes up. The OP asked for a minimal install, not a source based system. The obvious answer is: use the netinstall of your favorite distribution.


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