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Old 05-24-2009, 12:34 AM   #1
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Minimal install for Putty/Xming access?


I want to access remote server with GUI from Windows via Putty/Xming. I will never have access to server's console, I even don't know, if this server has graphics card.

I think this implies, that I need not to install full of X11.

But what is minimal intallation for my case?

System is Debian/etch.

Thanks.
 
Old 05-25-2009, 08:49 AM   #2
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If I understand, you want to build a server and want to know what you need to share X sessions? May be a stupid question on my behalf here, but why will you never have shell access, but you'll have graphical access? Sounds like you just want a VNC client on the windozer, and if you want to share GUI, you'll need an X server runner; the GUI stuff will depend on it.

Seriously, though, why not console and SSH? Its a hell of a lot easier and quicker
 
Old 05-26-2009, 02:01 AM   #3
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I HAVE shell access, but remote, via ssh. I HAVE NO physical access to computer screen and keyboard.

I am a newbie and sometimes I have no time to find textmode equivalents for GUI programs.
Also the question is interesting for me from technical point of view.

I have used TightVNC viewer on other machines and it was ok. But as I understood, this viewer shows screen, that is already shown on the linux computer. This means, that all XWindow is set up on it, including video drivers, screen resolutions etc.

But what if I have remote server rented? I have no access to it's physical screen. Also it is possible, that this computer does not have video card at all. So, full installation of XWindow is impossible (am I right?).

But may be it is possible to install something, which will allow to use SSH X11 tunnelling to view remote windows on my local machine without having videocard on remote one.
 
Old 05-27-2009, 03:08 AM   #4
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I HAVE shell access, but remote, via ssh. I HAVE NO physical access to computer screen and keyboard.

I am a newbie and sometimes I have no time to find textmode equivalents for GUI programs.
Also the question is interesting for me from technical point of view.
What do you want to do? For example, I have a server hosted with a hosting provider, and it also has no graphics subsystem - its simply a blade. But I can use MySQLCC (a GUI program) on my Linux system and it simply uses a MySQL connection TO the server - effectively giving me a GUI interface on a "headless" (graphics card less) system, albeit only for MySQL activity.

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I have used TightVNC viewer on other machines and it was ok. But as I understood, this viewer shows screen, that is already shown on the linux computer. This means, that all XWindow is set up on it, including video drivers, screen resolutions etc.

But what if I have remote server rented? I have no access to it's physical screen. Also it is possible, that this computer does not have video card at all. So, full installation of XWindow is impossible (am I right?).
I think so - the whole idea of X is to be a GUI (either locally or remotely). I think if the host system does not have a graphics card, then there's no point in having X on it - even for networked X-serving, the X-server does need some kind of display system to serve out to clients.

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But may be it is possible to install something, which will allow to use SSH X11 tunnelling to view remote windows on my local machine without having videocard on remote one.
See above - if the remote system has no video hardware, by definition it cannot host a GUI system - and any remote technology you use won't be able to generate some kind of "remote GUI" off of a system where NO graphics hardware even exists... VNC (as far as I know) takes the local framebuffer and copies that to you over the network, but it DOES, at least, -require- a local GUI to be running, which it can export over the network to you. So no GUI = no VNC / X11 connection.

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Old 05-27-2009, 05:29 AM   #5
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As I know, by X11 terminology, the "server" is that computer, which shows windows.

In my case, the X-server role will be held by my Windows computer with XMing. Hence, the linux computer will not be a server.

So, the question persists: what software should linux computer have for my configuration?
 
  


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