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Old 03-11-2011, 02:27 PM   #1
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Mandriva Help


I am really starting to get pissed off with Linux, and well never use it again, if I can't figure this out.

1st) I tried installing Fedora - kept giving me 50,000 errors.

2nd) I installed Mandriva, but now it won't boot into the GUI, I don't want the command user line, I pressed "ESC" and it won't goto GUI.

How do I get it in the GUI?

thanks
 
Old 03-11-2011, 02:56 PM   #2
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There are reasons why you may not be able to get to a gui, immediately. If there is a configuration problem, the gui may fail with errors.

Try this, from the command line, type 'startx' without the quotes, and see it will start. If it does not, copy down the error messages and post them.
 
Old 03-11-2011, 03:40 PM   #3
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There are reasons why you may not be able to get to a gui, immediately. If there is a configuration problem, the gui may fail with errors.

Try this, from the command line, type 'startx' without the quotes, and see it will start. If it does not, copy down the error messages and post them.
I got the GUI when it starts up, but then it switches to command line and asks me to login and then won't go back to GUI. I don't like using BASH for everything, it's annoying, I installed this thinking there was yum, not even a yum command. I'm really disliking mandriva, fedora, centos, etc...
 
Old 03-11-2011, 07:19 PM   #4
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Mandriva uses URPMI for installing software. It also has several built in scripts accesses through MCC for configuring things.

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I got the GUI when it starts up, but then it switches to command line and asks me to login and then won't go back to GUI
What we refer to the 'gui' is the xserver. It is started with startx command. That can easily be automated, once the graphics card is configured.

What you think is the gui, before you log in is not the xserver. Mandy displays some nice graphics through the boot process, that is not the xserver.

You did not answer my question. Log in at the bash prompt. Does the server start up when you entered 'startx' ? If not, what error messages did you get.

Last edited by camorri; 03-11-2011 at 07:21 PM.
 
Old 03-11-2011, 07:38 PM   #5
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Cool Edited response

Sorry for the erroneous post. Camorri is right and is trying to help you with a compatibility issue with your graphics card and or driver. He's trying to give you a work around because your GUI is not going to work until you can configure , and or change your driver for your graphics card. So to remedy it you will have to use a text terminal type of thing to get it to work. After that you should not have to use your command terminal too often.

Last edited by theKbStockpiler; 03-11-2011 at 08:42 PM. Reason: screwed up
 
Old 03-12-2011, 12:48 AM   #6
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hi,
Please post all the errors.

cheers
 
Old 03-12-2011, 01:33 AM   #7
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Mandriva uses URPMI for installing software. It also has several built in scripts accesses through MCC for configuring things.



What we refer to the 'gui' is the xserver. It is started with startx command. That can easily be automated, once the graphics card is configured.

What you think is the gui, before you log in is not the xserver. Mandy displays some nice graphics through the boot process, that is not the xserver.

You did not answer my question. Log in at the bash prompt. Does the server start up when you entered 'startx' ? If not, what error messages did you get.
the GUI was working before I restarted back into windows to get my files to port over, I tried doing "startx" it said "Command Not Found" in the bash after I logged in.

I don't get why it isn't working now, when it was working before.
 
Old 03-12-2011, 09:31 AM   #8
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As the other posters have suggested, yes, I'm trying to help you get it working. Once working, the command line is not required, much. Without the xserver running, we need it.

'Command not found' tells me you either do not have the xserver installed, or there is not path set to the location for startx.

So, first we need to know if startx is there. On my Mandriva system it is found in /usr/bin/. I ran a few commands to find it. Here is what I did.

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locate startx
/usr/man/man1/startx.1.gz
/usr/bin/startxfce4
/usr/bin/startx
Third line is the file with the full path.

Now, to find out who can run the command.

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ls -l /usr/bin/startx
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4457 2010-03-28 22:34 /usr/bin/startx*
The permissions for this file are the '-rwxr-xr-x' This is a set of three groups of three. The first three are for the owner, root. rwx means read, write and execute. Root can do everything. Then next three are for group. The group assigned is also root. If my user is part of the root group, then I could r-w, meaning I could read the file, and execute the file. I can not write the file. Last group of three are for every other user, not root user or root group. They can read and execute the file.

Now for you to get the locate command to work, you need to become root to run the 'updatedb' command once. This builds a database of the files on your system. To become root, at a command prompt you would type 'su'. The system will prompt for a password, you should have set one when you installed the system. Enter it, press enter. The cursor will not move when you type the root password. Run the command, then type 'exit' to log out of root.

Now you could run 'locate startx'. If it is installed, it will be listed. You could then use the 'cd /usr/bin' to change to the directory where the command is. Then do a 'ls -l startx'.

Post the results of 'ls -l startx'.

If it is not there, then you have something wrong with the install. We'll have to look at what you might not have done there.

Remember, we can not see what is on your system. We only know what you tell us.

Last edited by camorri; 03-12-2011 at 09:34 AM.
 
Old 03-13-2011, 01:26 PM   #9
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Locate didn't find anything and it's not there.

LS said file/folder not found

Thanks for all your help, but I think I'll just stay with my beloved Windows, it isn't as problematic as linux is.
 
Old 03-13-2011, 01:31 PM   #10
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Locate didn't find anything and it's not there.
Before you can use locate, you need to run
Code:
updatedb
as root, in order to create the database.
or use the find command
Code:
find / -name startx
Kind regards
 
Old 03-13-2011, 09:41 PM   #11
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Before you can use locate, you need to run
Code:
updatedb
as root, in order to create the database.
or use the find command
Code:
find / -name startx
Kind regards
I did, I decided to try reinstalling Mandriva one last time (I'm currently on it), I haven't rebooted yet, but so far the GUI is working fine. When I goto restart I don't know if the GUI is going to come back up (it didn't last time), I hope it does, but no guarantee.
 
Old 03-14-2011, 02:18 AM   #12
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just reboot it & see what happens

startx should be here:

startx: /usr/bin/startx
 
Old 03-14-2011, 11:03 AM   #13
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Thanks for all your help, but I think I'll just stay with my beloved Windows, it isn't as problematic as linux is.
Do whatever you like, but Linux isn't anywhere near as problematic as you're describing it. Maybe you have some strange hardware with poor Linux support.
 
  


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