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Old 08-18-2008, 11:22 PM   #1
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Smile Mandriva 2008 Live install " Server not found" error.


Total newbie!! Have installed Mandriva One live install from downloaded iso file. Have configured wireless connection. WEP code ok. It recognises my wireless router ok and even tells me I have succesful connection. 3 bars show on the task bar at bottom. Have even turned firewall off. Still cannot find servers etc. In config screen what is "Asign host name from DHCP address? I have that unchecked. The box above "Get DNS from DHCP" is checked. I do not understand yet some of the linux terminology so some help reall y would be appreciated. Cheers.
 
Old 08-19-2008, 01:17 AM   #2
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This is all networking, You'll need dhcp unless you set it your self.

Like mine, GamesBox.GlennsPref.net

Otherwise use get name from dhcp.

Check the dns addresses, are the same as it would be during any other session (winxp, live-cd)

Mine often get changed by some device that is manipulating

the contents of /etc/resolv.conf (even though the service is off)

(if you edit this file (as root) just restart your network to test the dns lookup.

The fire wall by default is very stealthy. You only have choices to open ports for

incomming traffic, like you would if you had a web server, or

wanted to login to the system from somebody elses computer.

see how you go, Glenn
 
Old 08-19-2008, 01:21 AM   #3
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Can you browse the internet with a browser? What is the output of the command "ifconfig -a" ?
 
Old 08-20-2008, 12:15 AM   #4
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Can you browse the internet with a browser? What is the output of the command "ifconfig -a" ?
hi there, no I cannot browse the internet. Do I run the above command in say "Konsole"? Have tried anyway and get message back "command not found".
Cheers Julian
 
Old 08-20-2008, 12:26 AM   #5
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Hi Glenn, Thank you for this info. Unfortunately I'm so new to Linux, I do not know how to check those items. My DNS etc on the WinXP laptop are all automatic. Have setup the Linux wireless settings the same. After getting green bars on the wireless network icon at bottom of screen, I get a message from "Software Media Manager" that I must add somw media. If I follow the boxes it fails saying the ntwork is down or the Mandriva site is busy. Also there is no help files available if I click on the tab, can I get that somewhere with my win computer?
Cheers Julian

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This is all networking, You'll need dhcp unless you set it your self.

Like mine, GamesBox.GlennsPref.net

Otherwise use get name from dhcp.

Check the dns addresses, are the same as it would be during any other session (winxp, live-cd)

Mine often get changed by some device that is manipulating

the contents of /etc/resolv.conf (even though the service is off)

(if you edit this file (as root) just restart your network to test the dns lookup.

The fire wall by default is very stealthy. You only have choices to open ports for

incomming traffic, like you would if you had a web server, or

wanted to login to the system from somebody elses computer.

see how you go, Glenn
 
Old 08-20-2008, 04:53 PM   #6
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hi there, no I cannot browse the internet. Do I run the above command in say "Konsole"? Have tried anyway and get message back "command not found".
Cheers Julian
Yes, this needs to be run from konsole.

You may need to be root to run it. Depends on your distro.

You might try /sbin/ifconfig -a, which has you putting the entire path to the command in.
 
Old 08-20-2008, 10:53 PM   #7
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Yes, this needs to be run from konsole.

You may need to be root to run it. Depends on your distro.

You might try /sbin/ifconfig -a, which has you putting the entire path to the command in.
Here is the output of the command you suggested:

[julian@localhost ~]$ /sbin/ifconfig -a
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:19 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:19 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1536 (1.5 KiB) TX bytes:1536 (1.5 KiB)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:46:E9:40:C8
inet addr:10.1.1.3 Bcast:10.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: fe80::213:46ff:fee9:40c8/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:53 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:2022 (1.9 KiB) TX bytes:11343 (11.0 KiB)

wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-13-46-E9-40-C8-08-1F-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

[julian@localhost ~]$
[julian@localhost
 
Old 08-21-2008, 12:38 AM   #8
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Well, you do appear to have a connection to your router. What kind of router is this? The ones I have seen that are sold for home use normally use the address range 192.168. Yours is using the address range 10.1. While this is a valid non-routable address range for LANs, it isn't one I have seen before in a home router. Usually it is reserved for class A networks, which usually are a lot larger than the typical home network.

What happens if you try to ping the router? Try the command ping 10.1.1.1 and see what happens.

Also, please enter the command /sbin/route and paste the results here.
 
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Well, you do appear to have a connection to your router. What kind of router is this? The ones I have seen that are sold for home use normally use the address range 192.168. Yours is using the address range 10.1. While this is a valid non-routable address range for LANs, it isn't one I have seen before in a home router. Usually it is reserved for class A networks, which usually are a lot larger than the typical home network.

What happens if you try to ping the router? Try the command ping 10.1.1.1 and see what happens.

Also, please enter the command /sbin/route and paste the results here.
[julian@localhost ~]$ /sbon/route
bash: /sbon/route: No such file or directory
[julian@localhost ~]$ /sbin/route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 35 0 0 wlan0
10.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 35 0 0 wlan0
default 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 35 0 0 wlan0
[julian@localhost ~]$

If I ping 10.1.1.1 all I get is host unreachable, and it ju8st keeps going for ever. How should I stop such a command repeating please?

Last edited by Jayceenz; 08-21-2008 at 11:23 PM. Reason: Addition to info
 
Old 08-21-2008, 11:47 PM   #10
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ping (ip number) -c 4

4 sets the count, put any value here.

Or type

ctrl+c

to cancel process/application
 
Old 08-22-2008, 12:28 AM   #11
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You can stop the ping with a ctrl-c at any time.

Your routing table is wrong.

You setup looks very odd to me. Why are you doing a wireless connection to a Class-A network? I asked this question in my last post and you didn't answer it.

In any case, you have a route to 10.0.0.0 specified which appears to be meaningless. You have no route to localhost, and no route to your specified subnet.

execute these commands to add these lines to your routing table:

route add -net 10.1.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev wlan0
route add -net 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo

That should fix you up. It will at least provide a route to your internet gateway, which is currently missing.
 
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You can stop the ping with a ctrl-c at any time.

Your routing table is wrong.

You setup looks very odd to me. Why are you doing a wireless connection to a Class-A network? I asked this question in my last post and you didn't answer it.

In any case, you have a route to 10.0.0.0 specified which appears to be meaningless. You have no route to localhost, and no route to your specified subnet.

execute these commands to add these lines to your routing table:

route add -net 10.1.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev wlan0
route add -net 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo

That should fix you up. It will at least provide a route to your internet gateway, which is currently missing.
Ok thank you for the above. I have NO idea at all why these numbers appear. All I have tried to do is install Mandriva One to a computer simply following the prompts as they appear. As yet I have no understanding as to just what makes the system run. I have this computer attached to the internet via a USB wireless D-Link device that has been working well for a couple of years.
When it comes to executing the commands above, is there something else I have to type in first, as if I enter the exact lines above in Konsole I receive a line back saying " bash: route: command not found ". Cheers Julian
 
Old 08-22-2008, 09:55 PM   #13
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You are expected to pay attention and learn.

You need to do it as you did it before to list the routing table. As root, and with the full path.

Last edited by jiml8; 08-22-2008 at 10:09 PM.
 
Old 08-23-2008, 12:01 AM   #14
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You are expected to pay attention and learn.

You need to do it as you did it before to list the routing table. As root, and with the full path.
Yes Master...I tried two ways. Firstly as two separate commands, that did not seem to work. So then as one complete line. It appears I am working at a level similar to DOS, so I'm a little fearful of stuffing it all up yet. Mind, I guess I just reload the system again. What I probably need is a tutorial on the way commands work in Linux and how to work with them. Here id the result of my attempts:

[julian@localhost ~]$ /sbin/route add -net 10.1.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev wl
an0
SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted
[julian@localhost ~]$ /sbin/route add -net 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo
route: netmask doesn't match route address
Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [<AF>] List kernel routing tables
route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush} ... Modify routing table for AF.

route {-h|--help} [<AF>] Detailed usage syntax for specified AF.
route {-V|--version} Display version/author and exit.

-v, --verbose be verbose
-n, --numeric don't resolve names
-e, --extend display other/more information
-F, --fib display Forwarding Information Base (default)
-C, --cache display routing cache instead of FIB

<AF>=Use '-A <af>' or '--<af>'; default: inet
List of possible address families (which support routing):
inet (DARPA Internet) inet6 (IPv6) ax25 (AMPR AX.25)
netrom (AMPR NET/ROM) ipx (Novell IPX) ddp (Appletalk DDP)
x25 (CCITT X.25)
[julian@localhost ~]$ /sbin/route add -net 10.1.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev wl an0 route add -net 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo
Usage: inet_route [-vF] del {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [gw Gw] [metric M] [[de v] If]
inet_route [-vF] add {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [gw Gw] [metric M]
[netmask N] [mss Mss] [window W] [irtt I]
[mod] [dyn] [reinstate] [[dev] If]
inet_route [-vF] add {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [metric M] reject
inet_route [-FC] flush NOT supported
[julian@localhost ~]$

I will have to find a language tutorial somewhere I believe. Cheers Julian.
 
  


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