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Old 02-18-2003, 11:30 PM   #16
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If you're really interested in the different distributions of Linux, check out http://www.distrowatch.com.

You'll be able to see most if not all of the Linux distros and get a summary for each one. Find that one that sounds best for you and go for it. Mandrake was nice for first time installers (unless you have a bad burn), but I ended up ditching it for Slackware after a month or 2. I'm not trying to pitch Slack at you or anything, just explaining my experience with Mandrake. I tried working with RedHat in 1996 but that was a total failure--I'm sure they've come a long way since then though. Seriously, have a look at that link and do some research for yourself and make your own decision. We'll be here to help you through it all anyway.
 
Old 02-19-2003, 12:02 AM   #17
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Have to say as a newbie (I think I'll always be a newbie if ya' get my meaning... I'm an old dog trying to learn new tricks) That Mandrake 9.0 is really quite something... Redhat is very good too tho' looks a bit XP/AOL'ish to me.... I liked the older Redhats tho' couldn't figure them out at the time... OK here's my dumb question..Debian or Slackware?
You can ignore this if you like as I'll try them both soon...Just want a head start.-)
 
Old 02-19-2003, 11:09 PM   #18
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Here's my little story on this question. I've been using Mandrake since something like 7.1 or 7.2, been such a long time I don't even remember. Lot's of people have asked why I haven't gone to a more robust Distro, I never really know how to respond then the typical reply

"I've used it and it works, It's grown with my knowledge of the OS and forgiven me for alot of mistakes, get off my back and bah already."

A little deffensive? Maybe... But here's the thing, with either of these distros what you want in the end is to get to learn the core system, linux. I personally think that either of these 3 will do the job, as long as your willing to learn. I'm currently running Mandy 9.0 and as always loving it, I've all but taken the Windows equation (<--- is that how you spell that?) out of my life and I do now feel that after a couple of years of being a linux usette that I can say I can live without windows and relly on Mandy to let me do what needs to be done, save maybe those damn games, god I love my games, damn you windows......

Plain truth of the matter is that your not going to get a Windows Like Linux Distro and be happy with that, YOU DON'T WANT THAT!!! But if you need something that will easy you into the linux environement and speaking as someone who was a heavy windows user, mandrake will not steer you the wrong way, but once more I'm pretty confident of the either of the 3 distro's you mentioned will do themselves justice.

So take the plunge, fear not because you have all of us to help you, for the first time you will know what your computer can do and what you can do with it and you wont be alone. In the end, it's so very much with it.

Ok give me a break, that was my best pitch.

*blinky* *Blink*

Anna.
 
Old 02-20-2003, 09:08 AM   #19
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Jadasin:
A wonderful pitch! I'm sold! my problem is that I get frustrated because I have come to realize that I know squat about Linux. I'm having troubles getting programs to install, don't know how to edit files, can't find things like "Nautilus," and other such newbie issues. I need to realize that the learning curve is just that, a curve.
Like last night, I tried to download the NVidia drivers for Linux Red Hat 8. Did the Nchooser thing, took the results and read through the readme files twice. When I tried to do it, too many error messages and it all failed. the instructions talked about upgrading the kernel, what ??? I recently downloaded Ximian, this has helped a lot in upgrading. I can't use up2date on Red Hat 8, keep getting a 31 error message
I think I did not install the developement tools when i installed RH, have to check that. So it's back to school I go, Kindergarten if i'm lucky.
I can't express enough the patience and time that experts spend here helping others. What a blessing to not be put on hold for 30 minutes by Microsoft, only to be run around and told 'Oh, you don't have rights to do that, have to buy another one of our programs." I too would like to be free of MS completely, but for now, that's a pipe dream.
Thanks again.
 
Old 02-20-2003, 09:48 AM   #20
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Those same adjustments for your card may be made in any distro.

As far as distro's is concerned: I've used RH from the get go, and apart from sound issues (now using Alsa) have no problems.
But really I don't think there would be any major difference between the "newbie versions" they all have their tools some good some not so good.
I would suggest picking any of them (mandy, rh of suse) and get comfortable with it for a while.
Then install a different desktop (my fav: fluxbox) which will force you into really getting to know linux b/c it hides all your goodies. That way you really get to know linux (and the command line) but you still have your goodies at hand by switching back to gnome/kde.
Good thing about getting to know linux is that than you are free to try all distro's such as slack, debian and gentoo.

Just my two -euro-cents

Anne
 
Old 02-20-2003, 11:57 AM   #21
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How do you exit the X server? Is that the GUI? I use RH 8, with Gnome and KDE. Is it really worth all the effort and hair-pulling to upgrade the drivers, if everything is okay now? I don't plan on doing any games on Linux, that's too far off for now. Web works great, etc. I might purchase Kapital, and try to wean myself off MS Money. Or maybe I'll get Quicken, anything but give Bill more money.
Thanks again
 
Old 02-20-2003, 03:35 PM   #22
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Yes, normally the "X server" is the gui. You can usually exit with one of the menu buttons on your taskbars. That or CTRL ALT BACKSPACE will kill/restart your X-Server.

As for upgrading drivers, you really don't have to as long as everything is working. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? There's no point it upgrading for nothing.

Good Luck on the weaning

Cool
 
Old 02-20-2003, 05:38 PM   #23
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another question:
I've been hunting for a discussion about running "glxgears". I did that and got 328 fps and 353 fps. Did I see where this is low? What kinds of problems will it cause?
Thanks
 
Old 02-22-2003, 06:11 PM   #24
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Is Lindows something like Wine, or is it linux with a windows like interface and use? (Can I run rpm's and mysql on that?)

Patrick
 
Old 02-22-2003, 06:14 PM   #25
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It's a linux with a win like interface and has alot of wine code in it. You can run RPM's and mysql on it, however the general consensus around here is that it's a blow to linux, it's very non-standard are borderline illegal at times.

Cool
 
Old 02-22-2003, 06:19 PM   #26
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I dont know if they supply the sourcecode (since you were refering to illegal pratices of Linows?)

Anyhow, What I basically want to do is set up a webserver running apache. I am trying redhat8, but I encounter so many troubles I am considering Lindows. But than again I dont know if they are compatible with other Linux distro, and are suitalbe for running webserver.

Couldnt it be that Lindows has to much focus on Microsoft, and for that reason my Linux users avoid Lindows?
 
Old 02-22-2003, 06:34 PM   #27
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Yes, it could be. Since I've never personally used it, I cannot comment on the functionality of it. However, I've seen questions and tried to help people who run it, but they don't have the common linux tools, nor the standard setups that most distros conform to, so help was a bit scarce and hard to come by it seemed.

Also, there is a biased there, but if a product was created that actually worked, and did it well, then I think the linux community would embrace it. Since this seems to be an expensive, half-assed distro, I don't think it's what should be embraced

If you want to just run an Apache server, nothing special, not a whole lot of RPM's that you require, check out debian or slackware. They are much simpler and better documented than lindows/rh, or most of the RPM based distros.

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