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View Poll Results: If given a choice of how to get my distro, I would rather:
Get everything out of a box - cds, docs and tech support. That's the way to go! 8 23.53%
Purchase the CDs only. I can get the docs elsewhere, and learn as I go. 6 17.65%
Purchase a membership so I can access what I want and leave the rest. 6 17.65%
I can find everything on my own, and will show my support for my distro in another way. 14 41.18%
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Old 04-26-2003, 08:15 AM   #16
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Have you tried starting a new thread here, posting your partition layout, and the contents of /etc/lilo.conf?
 
Old 04-26-2003, 08:39 AM   #17
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Sadie,

About lilo, see my reply in your other thread:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...5&pagenumber=2

Bruno
 
Old 05-01-2003, 07:52 PM   #18
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Purchase? Why would anyone pay money for Linux? That defeats half the point. Just download the free ISO images and documentation and burn your own CDs.

One more point: Donating money to a distro because you support it is distinctly different from buying the CDs and books, where some of the money is lost in production.

Last edited by dberkholz; 05-01-2003 at 08:36 PM.
 
Old 05-01-2003, 08:20 PM   #19
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I prefer to purchase CDs alone. I fine that the books that come with the distros are useless. I have purchased MD 6.1, Suse 7.0, RH 7.1 and 7.3. All where the power packs or what ever they call the box with 6 to 8 CDs. I have yet to see a book in that comes with a distro worth a crap. The book just get in the way when I tear into the box in excitement.
 
Old 05-01-2003, 09:31 PM   #20
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Well, I agree with donating to the distribution you like.
It is true that you can get a good distribution "free"
But think about that how they survive?
the Bankrupt of MDK is a good example
But I don't think you can get more help by paying. cause I've tried that and get nothing help.
The MandrakeExpert is a place you can ask questions, "free" or "not free", up to you.
I have some problems can't solve for a long time, therefore I paid for 10 questions official tech support. About USD100.....I think , don't remember.
The point is Still not much response while I transfer my "free" questions to "paid" questions.
Therefore, don't expect you can get more support for paying the MDK.
Their support service is not quite good!

Maybe they need more donate, or how come no one to servie me?
 
Old 05-01-2003, 09:49 PM   #21
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I just started using linux about 2 months ago and i didn't pay for anything. I downloaded the iso, burnt it, etc. I really regret that because, like any other person with window$ only experience, it was a pain to get everything in Md9.1(control console stuff) to work the way i wanted. I reinstalled it about 3 times because i screwed the system as root

Most of the time i messed things up, i had skimmed through the docs impatiently, so none of this was Md's fault. I can blame window$ for introducing me to a 99.9% gui interface The best thing about linux is that it forces you to actually learn about computing. it took me about 3 weeks, and after i learned about command line, compiling and libraries, i wasn't having many major problems like i said, the problems only came when i was trying to self-taylor the OS, thats why i think someone who is a to linux (like me) should buy the whole Md9.1 package.

(ps: the only reason i still have window$ on my system is cause i got like 20 games for it )
 
Old 05-02-2003, 03:10 AM   #22
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I bought two packaged versions of MDK
in the past, and had nothing but trouble
with it ... if they needed my support not
to go down .... "The faster they sink, the
better!" :D They are too MSish for me.
All looks & poor functionality. Nice ideas
but poor implementation.

At work (for some stupid reason) someone
in the past made the decision to use MDK
on our Linux boxes ... just yesterday I
tried to install it (8.2 and 9) on a brand new
Athlon 2100+ (ASUS board) ... MDK's whirly-gig
detected network-cards that weren't there,
and consequently the net wouldn't work.

It comes with a list of drivers in a pull-down,
but when you have to compile a new module
you have to load it manually, and edit your
script-files and modules.conf manually, after
all ... :P ... I rather use Slack, where I know
what I get before I get it.

Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 05-02-2003, 04:50 AM   #23
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I paid for SuSE 7.3 and 8.0 boxed sets, and rather fine they were too. Nowadays though I use Redhat and just download the ISOs - Redhat make very little from individual purchasers and certainly don't depend on them for future growth. I do a lot of coding on Linux these days, so that's my contribution.

Subscribing to the MDK club is OK if you want to support Linux I guess, though these days I'm not sure how many hackers they employ anymore, AFAIK David Faure no longer works for them hacking on KDE, for instance.

If you want to support Linux you'd be better off contributing direct to the community by doing things like coding, artwork, documentation, bug triage or tech support here of course For those with no time or inclination buying things from SuSE or Mandrake is also good.
 
Old 05-02-2003, 02:36 PM   #24
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I voted - Get everything myself and contribute to the distro in some other way.

I contribute to the distros I like in several ways, ranging from:

1) QA/Bug reporting
2) Beta Testing
3) Software development - add-on products as well as bug fixes, & new feature development
4) Community
5) Support - ie using my humble knowledge to help those les fortunately
6) Word of mouth marketing

To me, that's the true spirit of Open Source. As it turns out I use the distro I feel best fits the job, and I'd be broke, not feeding my family or myself, in the street if I attempted to contribute dollars directly back to them all.
 
Old 05-05-2003, 03:31 PM   #25
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Quote:
Originally posted by gboutwel
I voted - Get everything myself and contribute to the distro in some other way.

I contribute to the distros I like in several ways, ranging from:

1) QA/Bug reporting
2) Beta Testing
3) Software development - add-on products as well as bug fixes, & new feature development
4) Community
5) Support - ie using my humble knowledge to help those les fortunately
6) Word of mouth marketing

To me, that's the true spirit of Open Source. As it turns out I use the distro I feel best fits the job, and I'd be broke, not feeding my family or myself, in the street if I attempted to contribute dollars directly back to them all.
All excellent points! I hadn't really thought about how open source really allows you to contribue without having to spend money. I still may try the membership (it's only $5/month) so that I have access to other things, but I definitely want to get better with Linux so that I can help *add* to what's already a great product!
 
Old 05-05-2003, 10:36 PM   #26
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I dunno.... I like to buy the boxed sets. I bought the Caldera and RedHat boxed sets and have been happy. I guess I could download the isos but...
 
Old 05-06-2003, 10:10 AM   #27
Sadie Newlinux
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Quote:
Originally posted by rmartine
I dunno.... I like to buy the boxed sets. I bought the Caldera and RedHat boxed sets and have been happy. I guess I could download the isos but...
I downloaded the isos first because I didn't have the money to pay for the distribution. I liked the fact that I didn't *have* to pay, and they weren't denying me service just because I couldn't.

That in turn made me a little more loyal, I guess, and so I thought it might be nice to get other people's feelings on the matter.

Thanks for giving me yours!
 
Old 05-06-2003, 11:23 AM   #28
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tinkster
I bought two packaged versions of MDK
in the past, and had nothing but trouble
with it ... if they needed my support not
to go down .... "The faster they sink, the
better!" They are too MSish for me.
All looks & poor functionality. Nice ideas
but poor implementation.

At work (for some stupid reason) someone
in the past made the decision to use MDK
on our Linux boxes ... just yesterday I
tried to install it (8.2 and 9) on a brand new
Athlon 2100+ (ASUS board) ... MDK's whirly-gig
detected network-cards that weren't there,
and consequently the net wouldn't work.

It comes with a list of drivers in a pull-down,
but when you have to compile a new module
you have to load it manually, and edit your
script-files and modules.conf manually, after
all ... :P ... I rather use Slack, where I know
what I get before I get it.

Cheers,
Tink
I've used all versions of Mandrake since 7.0
I have had no problems that weren't of my own making. (Checking hardware compatibility is a very good idea, of course).
I really don't understand this "too much like MS" sort of comment. The perfect PC, imho, would be completely transparent. If you could have a PC that just did exactly what you wanted by voice-control, for example, and needed no tweaking at all, would you be happy? I wonder. Mandrake is heading down the route of convenience, but of course, under the hood, you can compile your own drivers and edit .conf files by hand, if you want. Distros like Slackware have their place, for people who like getting their hands dirty,too. I would never suggest "The faster they sink, the better!", not for any Linux distro. Sounds a bit Thatcherite to me....
 
  


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