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Old 07-26-2004, 04:48 PM   #16
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Would it possibly be easier to buy it, since the problem could be the actual burning process?
 
Old 07-26-2004, 10:43 PM   #17
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Have a friend burn the CDs for you see if it works and try other CD burning programs.
 
Old 07-26-2004, 11:00 PM   #18
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I burned mine using this process:
1: Download ISO's
2: Mount ISO as a virtual drive using Daemon-Tools
3: Clone the virtual drive using CloneCD

This process worked perfectly, and I did it all under windows.
 
Old 07-26-2004, 11:14 PM   #19
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Can't access CD-ROM? Try turning off DMA

Face paint: Your problem is actually a bit trickier than others seem to think. I can tell you what it isn't: (and here I disagree with some of the other posters)

It isn't your CD, because you were able to boot and get part of the install process going.

It isn't your CD-ROM drive, which you've been able to use with other programs.

That's the good news. The bad news is, I'm not sure what it *is*. But here is a possibility:

Recently when I tried booting Knoppix (another distribution of Linux), it kept trying to use the CD drive as if it were a SCSI drive. SCSI is one way the computer talks to the CD drive.

Now, most CD drives are *not* SCSI drives; rather, the CD drive acts like an ordinary hard drive, which is uses IDE rather than SCSI. (EIDE is Enhanced IDE, which is almost the same thing). I bet that your CD-ROM drive, like other CD-ROM drives, is IDE. Your CD drive is not external, but installed into your computer, right? There's a flat ribbon cable that connects it to the computer motherboard, right? (If you don't want to pull open your computer to find out, that's okay.)

As I said, most CD drives are not SCSI drives, but usually Linux does this funny trick to make it act like a SCSI drive so that Linux can use the CD drive properly. I don't know why this is necessary --maybe the old CD drives all used SCSI, and when modern CD drives came out, instead of writing Linux over again, they just made the CD drive act like SCSI.

But as I was saying in my case, for some reason this didn't work. If only Linux would stop checking for SCSI drives and look for "hard drive number 3" (the IDE type), it would actually find the CD drive there.

Well, what I did was turn off DMA (Direct Memory Access), and Knoppix Linux was able to see the CD drive.

Now, Mandrake is not the same as Knoppix, but that might be a way to get it to work. How do you turn off DMA? I'm not sure, but it would be something like this: when you first install Mandrake, there's an opening screen that says "Just press <Enter> to install, or <F1> for special options."

Press F1, and it will tell you that if you type "ooglyboogly" instead of just pressing Enter, it will do something different. Well, not "ooglyboogly" literally, but you'll see the different options. See if there's some way you can turn off DMA. It might do the trick.

Long-winded, I know.
 
Old 07-26-2004, 11:43 PM   #20
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ooglyboogly... i like that
mandrake has an option for expert install, DMA *should* be in there
simply follow the prev. directions, and instead of ooglyboogly, type expert
 
Old 07-27-2004, 04:43 AM   #21
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... and if it doesn't work, you can try ooglyboogly if you get sufficiently desperate :-D
Seriously though, hope it works.
 
Old 07-27-2004, 10:23 AM   #22
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OK, I did what you said and went into expert mode, it then loaded and started scanning USB ports as usual. But then it gave me a message saying to insert the Additional Drivers floppy. I didn't see anything about DMA. So, what now?
 
Old 07-27-2004, 10:38 PM   #23
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Er, help?
 
Old 07-28-2004, 05:41 AM   #24
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BIOS setup?
 
Old 07-28-2004, 06:36 AM   #25
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It isn't your CD-ROM drive, which you've been able to use with other programs.
Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, but this is misleading in my experience. My DVD drive works OK with normal programs in Windows and Linux, but with more 'low-level' Linux (i.e. an installer) it refuses to function properly. It will do so much during an install but will then mess about and refuse to read the CD. I have also had problems with package updates from CDs in this drive... apart from that it's fine except it likes chewing discs for a bit sometimes.

So don't assume that just because a drive is fine 'normally' it will work flawlessly for installs.
 
Old 08-07-2004, 05:43 PM   #26
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blatant repeated advertising removed

Last edited by Tinkster; 09-03-2004 at 10:57 PM.
 
Old 08-31-2004, 10:51 PM   #27
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I am having the same problem installing ManDrake 10.0.
I have burned the iso's, as images, onto disk.
When the machine starts the bios boots from CDROM.
The mandrake bootkernel scans plugnplay devices and then attempts to read the CDROM.
At this point it presents a popup stating 'i can't access a mandrake installation disc in you cdrom drive (SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-140)'.
The CDROM is plugged into the secondary IDE and is set as master.
None of the three discs will work. The discs have worked on other machines.

How do I find out if Mandrake 10.0 has a proper driver for the CDROM i am using? There is no mention on their site.

The install program offers serveral drivers that can be used to attempt to read the drive - is one of these drivers compatible? If so, what arguments must I supply?

Is it possible that either my IDE controller / or SCSI thing is not compatible?
How would I determine this?

Any help would be appreciated - this is a first.

Thanks,
Zee
 
Old 08-31-2004, 11:06 PM   #28
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Quote:
Originally posted by sorcerer01
To solve your issue take a look at my site
http:\\giovanesistemista.splinder.com
there I explain (in english too) how to solve your problem.


Hello Sorcerer,
I'd like to read your solution to this problem.
The website you have provided takes me to an Italian page.
The only thing I can read on this page is the sign the coyote is holding.
Could you provide a more specific link please?

Thanks
VanDerZee
 
Old 09-03-2004, 08:09 PM   #29
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sorcerer01 is a troll (ie. trolling --fishing with a net-- for replies) who wants more people to see his web page. He has posted identical posts in many different threads. Clearly it's an attempt to get more money by getting more people to see the ads that appear on his web page --he probably gets paid per view.

It would serve him right if he got DDOS'd with everyone typing this on the command line:

while [ 1==1 ] ; do wget "http:\\giovanesistemista.splinder.com" ; done

Go somewhere else, you ****ing troll.
 
Old 09-30-2004, 08:27 PM   #30
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I'm also getting the same issue... I too have a SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-140. I tried Booting a Knoppix 3.6 disk and found that it also booted but failed to find the Knoppix file system. (Which I find strange since I've been using Knoppix 3.3 with no issues)

Based on what I've read here and in a few other places I think there may be some sort of compatability issue with the SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-140 drives...

Last edited by Mr_Trebuchet; 10-01-2004 at 06:35 PM.
 
  


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