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Old 10-07-2004, 11:36 PM   #1
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Angry mandrake 10.0 modem not working


I am very new to Linux and I am having a terrible time getting the modem to work. I gather I must have a winmodem. I read all the replies about downloading drivers and typing this command here and this command here.

To be honest, it is way over my head. I don't have any idea what that means. Where do I type commands? I have the main screen in front of me and that doesn't tell me anything.

Itmodem.ko and itserial.ko sound great. I downloaded kernel 2.6.3.7mdk on to a floppy, now what. How do I move them? What does extract to path mean? If I open this file and find the two things, then I right click on them, it offers to let me open them, save them and so on. No where does it say extract to path?

Where would I type something? mknod--mode and so on. What screen would I be on? Do I just type on the desktop?

I know all of you know a lot more than I do, but does someone have step by step instructions, that make sense to some one without all the advanced terminology?

I have Linux on my laptop and it works great with a cardtype modem. I really need help for my desktop.

thanks,

drsleepy

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Old 10-08-2004, 04:01 PM   #2
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Man.....you really need to get some books! Check out some beginner books for Linux:Linux for Dummies for instance (no I'm not calling you names )
I know how frustrating it can be when you want something fixed NOW so I'll try to help you out a bit.

You need to open a shell terminal so that commands can be directly typed in to Linux. Search around your desktop, menus, etc, for a program listed as TERM, or TERMINAL, or KTERM, or CONSOLE, or some other variation of the sort. Open this program and you should have a terminal session.

To move a file around use the command: CP <source> <destination>.
To get access to the floppy you should try: mount /mnt/floppy
To safely unmount the floppy do: umount /mnt/floppy
To get a file off your floppy you can try: CP /mnt/floppy/FILENAME /home/FILENAME
(I'm assuming your system is configured properly for the floppy, it is possible that yours is different.)

If the file ends with .gz then do:gunzip /home/FILENAME
If the file ends with .tar then do:tar -xvf /home/FILENAME

To (visually) read a file you can try:
vi FILENAME (use the sequence :q to exit the file)
or pico FILENAME
or your favorite text editor.

Finally, search around for some websites that cater to Linux newbies to become more Linux literate. This is a good site to start with: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/
 
Old 10-08-2004, 05:33 PM   #3
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Do you know what type of modem you have? If you are not sure, go to the Mandrake Control Center, and click on hardware then on the second hardware icon. You will have a list of recognized hardware. See if you have a modem listed. If not, click on options then click on automatically recognize modems. Close the Control Center, then go back in. It should now at least list your modem. There are some winmodems that install pretty easily. Drop a note on what you have.
 
Old 10-08-2004, 08:38 PM   #4
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Hey, My name is Jase, and I'm having similar issues with Linux, Im a Little more familiar with Linux than the other guy on this post, but not that much. I'm very familiar with Windows and DOS, so Im able to understand some of the terminology that he couldnt understand. But my question is this:
How to I use an Existing Dial-Up Internet account that uses Dial-Up-Networking in Windows to make a direct connection, work with Linux. I am using Linux Mandrake 10 Official. I dont have KPPP Installed on my computer evidently, cuz I can kind it anywhere in the menus. I downloaded a copy of KPPP from KDElook.org, (16640-kppp-professional.tar.bz2), but when i extract the files, I get a folder called "pixmaps", and a file called "kpp-professional.diff". What Am I supposed to do with these files now that I have them? Also, in the Mandrake Control Center, I have a "PCTel HSP Micromodem 56" PCI modem in the "Unknown/Others" categfory, how do I get a driver for this, and how do I install it. Ive looked all over Linmodems.org, but that site has nothing (That I can see) relating to mandrake 10, I downloaded an RPM file, which Im assuming was a driver, but it says "Unsatisfied Kernal, Do you agree?" or something like that. Any help would be appreciated.
 
Old 10-08-2004, 10:22 PM   #5
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You probably have the right driver but since you are using Mandrake 10 you probably have the "wrong" kernel version. I actually have that modem in my laptop (Presario 700). The driver for the modem will only work with a 2.4.x version kernel. It works very well and in fact if you either belong to MandrakeClub or buy a boxed set you get the driver (hsflinmodem). Again you do have to be using a 2.4.x kernel. A solution is to install the latest 2.4 kernel along side the default 2.6 kernel and set up a boot option in lilo. Then when you want to use the modem you boot into the 2.4 kernel. If there is another solution out there I would like to hear it, but that is the latest info I have.
 
Old 10-08-2004, 11:24 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by L3thalg20boy
I downloaded a copy of KPPP from KDElook.org, (16640-kppp-professional.tar.bz2), but when i extract the files, I get a folder called "pixmaps", and a file called "kpp-professional.diff". What Am I supposed to do with these files now that I have them? Also, in the Mandrake Control Center, I have a "PCTel HSP Micromodem 56" PCI modem in the "Unknown/Others" categfory, how do I get a driver for this, and how do I install it. Ive looked all over Linmodems.org, but that site has nothing (That I can see) relating to mandrake 10, I downloaded an RPM file, which Im assuming was a driver, but it says "Unsatisfied Kernal, Do you agree?" or something like that. Any help would be appreciated.
KPPP is used to set-up the communication parameters AFTER your modem is working.
See this posting for information on a file (pctel-0.8.6.tar.gz) that may work with your modem:
http://linuxquestions.org/questions/...003/06/2/64912
Here is a link for the file:
http://ftp.yars.free.net/pub/softwar...ernel/drivers/
 
Old 10-08-2004, 11:37 PM   #7
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Check out the linux resources that are linked in my sig.
 
Old 10-08-2004, 11:55 PM   #8
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Sorry, had to look to see what I had there

Now, rute user is one that I've often seen quoted as being a good resource - you may have to surf for the latest version - but try the others.

Presuming that you've got your install pretty much as default, then from the start menu go for More applications>documentation and you should find most of the stuff that you need.

As for opening a terminal/konsole (or what ever it might be called ), the taskbar icons, there the mandrake control centre (configure my computer) that looks like a TV with a spanner across it, well it's not that one - it's the other one that looks like a TV (mine also has a shell image on it, but that's just because of the iconset I'm using).

When the terminal opens you should have a prompt with stuff that looks a little like this
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bash-2.05b$
though it may have the name that you gave the system. The $ sign means you're in the user account. You can still do quite a few things in the user, but if you put a command in and it replies "access denied" then it usually means that you'd need to be logged in as root ( the sys admin account ).

To do that, just type in the letters SU and hit enter, then it should ask you to put in the root password, do that and enter, then you should see the prompt change from a $ to a # (these can be changed but those symbols are the defaults).

If you have mandrake installed OK, but think that you installed it with the 2.6 series kernel, then you can just do a re-install, but read the dialogue boxes, as I seem to remember there's a bit where you can choose the latest version of the 2.4 series kernel.

I'm sorry, I can't help with the dial up thing, I've only ever used linux systems with broadband based LAN connections and USB modems.

You may also find stuff at the LQ distros>mandrake forum.

regards

John

p.s. I haven't had to use any of the other links from my sig (I don't really use rute user), but that's because I absolutely hate reading technical text from a monitor screen! It shouldn't stop you checking them out though, to see which, if any, are helpful!
 
Old 10-09-2004, 06:42 AM   #9
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Hi

first of all try to identify your modem for this there is a tool in linmodems.com (pls use google search for linux modem troubleshooitng and u should get the website) there is a scan modem file when u run this file u will get four files which will be txt files and give some good explanations regarding the type of modem u have... another thing if u not very comfortable with the terminal for unzipping use the GUI right click.

now search for drivers................... and then install

and winmodems are difficult to install....

satish
 
Old 10-11-2004, 02:38 AM   #10
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Hey thanks a lot for the help guys. So, being it is that I have Kernel 2.6, I cant use that driver? I guess that makes sense, but then it doesnt cuz im used to Windows Backword-Compatibility. Anyhow, what Am I supposed to do with the KPPP files, since they are not in RPM form? Where do I put this directory with files in it (Mostly Images in PNG format) and the .diff file in order to get KPPP to function? Im picking up quickly on all of this, and it helps a lot. Havent tried the PCTel driver posted on here with a link yet, Im using my Windows System right now. Thanks
 
Old 10-11-2004, 03:28 AM   #11
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You should use Mandrake's brilliant urpmi tool for installing program packages. Urpmi will check it's internal list of your install CDs for the program package, ask for the CD, and install the program.
If you have set up an external source - and that is strongly recommended - the program will be searched for on one of the download mirror servers. You sould set the source up using EasyURPMI. If you input your system and closest download mirror, the EasyURPMI page will output some commands you should enter in a terminal; that way the download servers will be added to your list, and if urpmi can't find a program package on your CDs, it will check the mirrors.
To use this command, when you open a terminal simply input:
Code:
urpmi kppp
- and urpmi will look for the package. The advantage with this method is that it checks for dependencies, meaning that if you need to get some code libraries or something before installing, urpmi will download these automatically first.
I can not stress this enough: Urpmi is a very powerful tool and one of the main reasons I haven't changed from Mandrake to a lighter, faster system for everyday use long ago. If you plan on continuing to use Mandrake, you should get acquainted with urpmi.
 
Old 10-12-2004, 04:03 AM   #12
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THANKS a lot for that one, that VERY Helpful, now what if I'm installing an RPM and it asks for DISC 4, which I cant find a Mandrake 10 DISC for ISO anywhere?
 
Old 10-12-2004, 04:21 AM   #13
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I think you'll find that the 4th disc was a powerpack optional one.

Personally, I suspect that the package you're after is probably on one of the mirrors, so surf to easy urpmi and using the dropdowns, follow the instructions and select a mirror, the one closest to you is often the easiest/best/quickest choice, for each of the selections i.e. contrib, main, updates,addons (the plf) and jpackage (i don't know if you'll get into the club list, as you usually have to be a club member and it may ask for a username and password). When you get the output in the last box, you'll have to open a terminal/konsole/whatever you call it, and then put in "su" (no quotes) and enter, then input your root password and enter, then do the cut and paste thing from the info in the last box.

If you don't see some activity you may have to hit enter (sometimes I do, sometimes not - but sometimes the updating that going on will stop and make it look like you've just entered a command and you just hit enter to continue).

When you arrive back at the root prompt, you just go into the mandrake control centre (configure my computer) and into the software manager and you can then do any updates and installing from the available list. Anything you select to install that has dependencies will usually tell you with a "press/select OK" dialogue box.

Sounds a lot, but it's very straight forward. Plus because you're adding stuff to your system that's in mandrake optimised RPM's, you shouldn't have any dependency snags.

Erm, all that, is presuming that you've got the dial up sorted, which is something I can't help with as I've only ever used a broadband/LAN connection.

regards

John
 
Old 10-12-2004, 05:53 AM   #14
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Hi there !
I got the same trouble and I think to be at just 1 step to solve it
I got the right driver but it only works on 2.4; so... I get to YAST and installed the 2.4 kernel and done it bootable, then uninstalled the 2.6; it boots fine but when I try to run hsflinmodem.conf it says my modem is a 2.6 kernel
whats up with this? Thanks
 
Old 10-12-2004, 11:34 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally posted by leadsling
You probably have the right driver but since you are using Mandrake 10 you probably have the "wrong" kernel version. I actually have that modem in my laptop (Presario 700). The driver for the modem will only work with a 2.4.x version kernel. It works very well and in fact if you either belong to MandrakeClub or buy a boxed set you get the driver (hsflinmodem). Again you do have to be using a 2.4.x kernel. A solution is to install the latest 2.4 kernel along side the default 2.6 kernel and set up a boot option in lilo. Then when you want to use the modem you boot into the 2.4 kernel. If there is another solution out there I would like to hear it, but that is the latest info I have.
Yours is the same issue the original poster had. Until the driver is updated to work with the 2.6 kernel, you'll have to have a 2.4 kernel installed in order to use the hsflinmodem driver.
 
  


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