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Old 01-29-2007, 10:41 AM   #1
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OK, Ill try to make this short, I decided to install a dual boot system on my 2nd desktop, currently running, (or had XP), I downloaded and burned 5 CD's of Fedora Core 6 (I could not burn the DVD ISO), tried most of the day to load them without destroying my Windows Data,I finally used Partition Magic to set up the partitions, I selected the Linux option and partitioned my drive for swap,boot,etc.., I booted from the CD and installed the software, all went well, except I found out my D-Link wireless card is not supported, so I am unable to connect to my network, and also discovered I cannot boot to Windows, I added XP as a second option for GRUB, and all it does is take me to a Dell hardware diagnostic screen. So, after having enough frustration and basically not wanting to waste another day, I'll just reload windows, clean install, wipe the drive, I install my windows CD, boot from CD, it says its checking my current HW configuration and does......nothing, it just sits there. Anybody know what I need to do here? I want to wipe the drive and reinstall windows, my Linux experience was dissapointing to say the least!
 
Old 01-29-2007, 10:52 AM   #2
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gah, seesm you came across some trouble with dell motherboards, normally grub works fine with no problems.

do you have a real windows disk or a useless "restore disk"
 
Old 01-29-2007, 11:05 AM   #3
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Please post your grub menu.lst file... Also if you have a win98 boot floppy you could boot that then type "fdisk /mbr" I use this
trick with my system whenever grub has failed so I can atleast boot windos xp.... But please post the grub menu.lst if you manually added windows to it it may not be right..
 
Old 01-29-2007, 11:11 AM   #4
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I dont know enough about Linux and all the jargon, I just want to reload windows and get it going again, I have a system disc that came with the machine to reload the OS from Dell, and also have a regular XP OS disk I used when I assembled this machine, I have tried rebooting using both and they do the same thing, nothing,Do I need a new HD to get this thing going? How do I reformat it from Linux? what a freakin nightmare!
 
Old 01-29-2007, 11:14 AM   #5
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It's not clear. Did you already "wipe the drive"? If not, then GRUB is probably booting that hidden partition brand-name computers have. A simple change in menu.lst will resolve this issue then. Please post your menu.lst as jokerbw suggested and also output of fdisk -l (lowercase L).
 
Old 01-29-2007, 11:16 AM   #6
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No need to get too drastic. You probably have grub pointing to the Dell recovery partition when trying to boot Windows. Usually as simple as changing "root (hd0,0)" to "root (hd0,1)".
Running "/sbin/fdisk -l" (lower casse ell) from a terminal session (in Linux) should tell you.

Can't help with the card - haven't used Fedora.

Last edited by syg00; 01-29-2007 at 11:17 AM.
 
Old 01-29-2007, 11:17 AM   #7
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provided that the PC vendor hasdnt done anything stupid to try to lock you in,
then it should just boot proparely form yoru windows CD
teh problem here is nothing to do with the linux partition.
have you checked your BIOS to check taht teh Cd drive is before your hard drive in teh boot order?
 
Old 01-29-2007, 11:51 AM   #8
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It's not clear. Did you already "wipe the drive"? If not, then GRUB is probably booting that hidden partition brand-name computers have. A simple change in menu.lst will resolve this issue then. Please post your menu.lst as jokerbw suggested and also output of fdisk -l (lowercase L).
Have not wiped disk yet, tell me how to make this change, like i said, I am lost here, I wish someone would tell me how to wipe this all out so i can start with a clean, reformatted drive, I am totally unfamiliar with Linux and its jargon, and i dont know how to post or find any of these settings
 
Old 01-29-2007, 12:10 PM   #9
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Let's try a quick fix for Windoze not booting.
Reboot - when you see the boot menu, use the "arrow" keys to highlight to 'doze option.
then hit the <c> key.
Use the arrow keys to highlight the line that says "root" (or "rootnoverify"). Hit the <e> key to edit it.
It'll say something like "root (hd0,0)" - increment the last digit by one. Make it say "root (hd0,1)".
Hit enter, then <b> to boot.

If that works, we'll show you how to make it a permanent change. Or we can show you how to trash the disk it you really insist.
Pity you've had a bad experience with Linux.
 
Old 01-29-2007, 12:30 PM   #10
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Let's try a quick fix for Windoze not booting.
Reboot - when you see the boot menu, use the "arrow" keys to highlight to 'doze option.
then hit the <c> key.
Use the arrow keys to highlight the line that says "root" (or "rootnoverify"). Hit the <e> key to edit it.
It'll say something like "root (hd0,0)" - increment the last digit by one. Make it say "root (hd0,1)".
Hit enter, then <b> to boot.

If that works, we'll show you how to make it a permanent change. Or we can show you how to trash the disk it you really insist.
Pity you've had a bad experience with Linux.
OK, I highlite XP, enter "c" for a command line, screen shows: Grub>, I hit "c" it says bad command, so I hit Tab to show a list of valid commands, I hit rootnoverify, or root it says: ( hd0,2)filesystem is ext2fs partition type ox83, then a new Grub> command line shows up, no editing, e is a bad command
 
Old 01-29-2007, 12:37 PM   #11
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D'oh. Sorry - my bad, I did that from memory.
Reboot, and use the <e> key instead of the <c> key in my instructions above.
 
Old 01-29-2007, 12:41 PM   #12
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D'oh. Sorry - my bad, I did that from memory.
Reboot, and use the <e> key instead of the <c> key in my instructions above.
OK, I got it to edit, changed hd0,0 to hd0,1, rebooted, wala! looks like windows is going to load! wrong! hi pitched squeel, blue screen comes up with fatal system error, sytem is shutdown, Ive tried 3 times, help me wipe the drive, and I'll read up on linux more before i attempt this again!
 
Old 01-29-2007, 01:03 PM   #13
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O.k., at least we tried ...

You'll probably need to be root. Boot Linux, open a terminal session (command line), and enter "su -" (yes, you need the hyphen), and enter your root password when prompted.
Then "df" to find out your disk - probably /dev/hda or /dev/sda.

If you are happy to lose everything on that drive, cut and paste this in
Code:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1 count=510
Obviously you need to hit the correct drive in the outfile (of) ...

Shutdown, and boot from the XP CD - it'll see the disk as blank.
Next time try something like Ubuntu - you won't have these issues with rebooting the XP CD.
 
Old 01-29-2007, 01:31 PM   #14
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O.k., at least we tried ...

You'll probably need to be root. Boot Linux, open a terminal session (command line), and enter "su -" (yes, you need the hyphen), and enter your root password when prompted.
Then "df" to find out your disk - probably /dev/hda or /dev/sda.

If you are happy to lose everything on that drive, cut and paste this in
Code:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1 count=510
Obviously you need to hit the correct drive in the outfile (of) ...

Shutdown, and boot from the XP CD - it'll see the disk as blank.
Next time try something like Ubuntu - you won't have these issues with rebooting the XP CD.
OK I boot into Linux, from my desktop i select terminal and enter the "su -", password comes up with a blinking cursor and wont let me enter any data for a password, am I using this terminal thing correctly?
 
Old 01-29-2007, 01:46 PM   #15
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Dude, I just did "speed reading".

I don't know how many know here - Dell Laptops/Desktops usually have 1 or two hidden partitions.

The partition in Grub might have pointed to that diagnostics partition.

I belv fix is quite easy if you could have posted/played around with that partition # and settings.

Off the beat - try calling dell and verify how many partitions you got there (if you havent created any partitions other than Linux since you got System) - alternatively - If you are that desprate - try using windows installation disk - go to recovery console and do - fdisk/mbr . Thats gonna get rid of GRUB - if you so choose.
 
  


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