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Philip1959 01-04-2013 12:56 PM

Lost Link to All Applications after Ubuntu upgrade
 
I'm hoping this is an easy fix. Before upgrading Ubuntu at the bar at the top of my screen I had several drop downs that led to applications etc. After the upgrade to 12.4 they disappeared. I upgraded to 12.10 to see if that would bring them back. I'm guessing this is hopefully an easy fix. I do have a new floating bar on the left that allows me to launch Firefox, a few open office apps, dash home, home folder, etc. But most of what I am looking for I am unable to find. Is it possible to get this drop down menus to return? Thanks. Philip

sneakyimp 01-04-2013 01:13 PM

I'm guessing you were upgrading from Ubuntu 10? I had this same sort or problem. I don't know how you can go back to the older interface, but when you launch an app, it should appear in the left-side menu. You should be able to right-click the icon and select "keep in launcher."

Philip1959 01-04-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneakyimp (Post 4863041)
I'm guessing you were upgrading from Ubuntu 10? I had this same sort or problem. I don't know how you can go back to the older interface, but when you launch an app, it should appear in the left-side menu. You should be able to right-click the icon and select "keep in launcher."

I can't really launch any apps except for the few that are already there. I also can't launch anything else that was on those drop down menus like Terminal, etc. I upgraded from 11

sneakyimp 01-04-2013 01:33 PM

You can launch an app by browsing or by typing /usr/sbin/appname (or similar) into a command window. If you need a command window hit ctrl-alt-t.

According to this article, Ubuntu used to use Gnome-2-Panel whereas Ubuntu 11 uses Unity. You may find these articles helpful? Sorry I can't be more help. I have learned to live with Unity. I'm thinking about switching distros. Ubuntu's been pissing me off.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/16343...n-ubuntu-12-04
http://askubuntu.com/questions/58172...-gnome-classic
http://www.filiwiese.com/installing-...cise-pangolin/

TroN-0074 01-04-2013 01:50 PM

The very top icon on the bar at your left is the start button, click there and a big search windows will appear. Type the name of the application you want to run there then the icon of that application will appear if the application is installed.
While running the application a temporary icon will be shown on the bar of icons, if you want a permanent icon right click on it and select to pin it to the bar.

Another way to get that search window is by pressing the windows key on your keyboard.
if you bring that search windows up look a the botton of it it will have little icons click on them they will take you to documents, folders movies, music and applications. Click on the filter more results for you to have more options.

Play around with it for you to get more familiar with it. You still can create icons on the desktop for you to access to your main applications too.
If you don't like the new interaction with your system you can always install a different desktop manager one like Xfce or LXDE

Good luck to you

Philip1959 01-04-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroN-0074 (Post 4863071)
The very top icon on the bar at your left is the start button, click there and a big search windows will appear. Type the name of the application you want to run there then the icon of that application will appear if the application is installed.
While running the application a temporary icon will be shown on the bar of icons, if you want a permanent icon right click on it and select to pin it to the bar.

Another way to get that search window is by pressing the windows key on your keyboard.
if you bring that search windows up look a the botton of it it will have little icons click on them they will take you to documents, folders movies, music and applications. Click on the filter more results for you to have more options.

Thanks. I did find most of the apps by clicking on the 2nd icon below of this search screen.
I ignored the update screen for days, I wish I would have kept ignoring it. I think it is time to try another version of Linux that is not Ubuntu.
Thanks to TroN-0074 & sneakyimp for their replies.
Philip

sneakyimp 01-04-2013 02:46 PM

If you are using Ubuntu and use the command line, you might want to steer toward another debian-based distro -- otherwise, the commands can be fairly different. Another possibility is Linux Mint -- it's based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian.

If you are interested in a very secure system, I've heard that FreeBSD is the way to go. I don't know if FreeBSD has anything resembling a user-friendly UI.

There's also some fairly useful-looking advice in this other thread:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ow-4175443968/

Philip1959 01-04-2013 03:07 PM

Thanks again sneakyimp. I am a Windows Expert (MCSE) and a moderate Cisco engineer (CCNA), I took a forensics course years ago. Week 2 was forensics using Linux. I have been fascinated with it ever since. I have used Knoppix, Susi, Fedora, Ubuntu, and a few others. I have used Linux on dual boots, cd boots, direct installs, and as a vm. But my Linux skills are still at a newbie level. Determined to learn it I found an old PC at work and installed Ubuntu on it. I use it for web email and a few other things. But my goal is to move from Newbie to User, to moderate user, to being able to support Linux, to maybe getting close to expert as possible. A co-worker gave me a copy of CentOS, but I think this old PC is too slow to use it. By the time I get the fourth browser window open it basically locks up. I really need to learn how to fix the page file; but saving that for another day. Thanks again for the suggestions and I hope to spend more time here.
Philip
www.linkedin.com/in/PhilipWagner

sneakyimp 01-04-2013 03:16 PM

I'm no expert but I'm glad to help if I can. I'm hoping to pay back the community here for their very generous help.

I agree that Linux is pretty damn interesting and powerful -- especially for software development and server uses. In my opinion, the user interfaces you get are really the flaky part of linux. The command line (e.g., the bash shell) is where it's at. The real value in linux is in its stability and efficiency and in the way that it ably supports the raw nuts-and-bolts type computer stuff. As a user experience, it leaves a lot to be desired.

TroN-0074 01-04-2013 03:32 PM

Just change desktop graphical interface
 
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Hi Philip.
If that computer has enough power to run the latest version of Ubuntu, for sure it will have enought power to run CentOS. CentOS main goal is to funtion as server as an alternative to Red Hat enterprise. so there are no many bells and wisels by default.
The guys at Ubuntu I feel they are targetting consummers, and they want to bring regular users to Linux that is why they are changing things around, making their graphical interface flashy and shinny to compete with Windos 8 and Apple. at least that is how I feel.

If you are confortable using Ubuntu but you dont like their new User interface you can replace it with Xfce by typing in terminal
Code:

sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
Run that command and when is done log out of the session, then log back in but on the loging manager click on the big circle next to the user name and select Xubuntu

Alternativaly you can install LXDE as your graphical interface by issuing the command on terminal
Code:

sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
let it finish running and once is done log out of your session then log back in, but firt at the loging screen click the big white circle and select there the Lubuntu session.

I am attaching a screen shot so you can see what white cirle I am talking about

Good luck to you

Philip1959 01-04-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroN-0074 (Post 4863131)
If you are confortable using Ubuntu but you don't like their new User interface you can replace it with Xfce by typing in terminal
Code:

sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
Run that command and when is done log out of the session, then log back in but on the loging manager click on the big circle next to the user name and select Xubuntu

Alternativaly you can install LXDE as your graphical interface by issuing the command on terminal
Code:

sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
let it finish running and once is done log out of your session then log back in, but firt at the loging screen click the big white circle and select there the Lubuntu session.

Wow! Thanks!
I did both installs and also noticed that I had many choices on the boot up.
I tried the xubuntu first. It was great.
My choices included:
- GNOME;
- GNOME Classic;
- GNOME Classic (No effects);
- GNOME/Openbox;
- Lubuntu;
- Lubuntu Netbook;
- Openbox;
- Recovery Console;
- Ubuntu;
- Ubuntu 2D;
- User Defined Session;
- Xfce Session; and
- Xubuntu Session
I tried Lubuntu next. I liked it even better.
- But I really found my answer, GNOME Classic was the return of my previous desktop experience.
- I did not see much difference when I did the “No effects” version, but I’m guessing it was faster.
- GNOME/Openbox is the version that appeared after the update.
- Lubuntu Netbook added tabbed pages to desktop with links, but still included the start menu’s
- I would think it would be best for beginners.
- Openbox just brought up a faded blue screen and the mouse. I had to hit the power button to log off.
- Ubuntu was the same as GNOME/Openbox
- Ubuntu 2D looked the same, I’m guess there was a change to the graphics, but I could not see it.
- Xfce Session Looked just like Xubuntu
- But in the end, I will most likely stick with GNOME Classic
I hope this helps other newbies. :-)

Philip
www.linkedin.com/in/PhilipWagner

TroN-0074 01-04-2013 06:41 PM

Good to heard you figured it out. To use OpenBox you right click direcly on the desktop so all the options appear from that click. You can edit the openbox menu to add your preferences. It is a matter of play around with them for a while and you could even find another favorite.

Good luck to you.


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