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Old 06-11-2004, 11:01 AM   #1
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lost gnome session


I am a windows user so please bear with me. I have mandrake 9.2 installed with gnome. The gnome gui starts up right at startup.

Now I logged out of gnome to install xfree86 4.4.0 that I needed in order to install gtk, or so I had understood. I am stupid. So, after installing xfree now I am at the command prompt. I type 'gnome'. Nothing happens. I type 'X'. Now I'm in a some sort of a gui, with three system windows and a console window. (what is this? -Xwindow?)

Logging out of whatever that was, I get to a some sort of a gnome/mandrake menu. I have the option to open up a session or to shutdown. Every item in the menu returns to that odd blue screen with three system windows and the console.

At the install I wrote over all of existing conf files the installer asked.

So, uh, what is this? What did I do? Where did my gnome session go? I already escaped back to my windows system. I hope I don't have to stay here.
 
Old 06-11-2004, 04:11 PM   #2
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How did you install xfree86 4.4.0? Did you install from source or find Mandrake packages somewhere? Xfree86 is a large complex peice of software that many other programs rely on, so there are numerous ways to foul things up. Do you get a graphical login screen that you can actually read? (meaning X actually starts and your display is configured properly) Did you try re-booting the machine after installation or pressing ctrl+alt+backspace to re-start X? Did you try running "drakconf" from the command line to re-configure X?
 
Old 06-11-2004, 04:35 PM   #3
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I downloaded all the numerous files for xfree86 and installed it as root after logging out from gnome. Actually at the logout I got a blue screen and a wait cursor, and after a while of waiting, nothing seemed to happen and I had to reset. After loading linux again I end up in the shell. Now I run "sh Xinstall -check" as in the installation instructions told to. It installs without errors (that I notice) and now I find myself in this situation.
 
Old 06-11-2004, 05:45 PM   #4
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From your shell, try typing the command "drakconf" as root. That will open the text version of the Mandrake Control Center. You can then try re-configuring X-windows there. It may be possible that your configuration was wiped out when you installed the new version.
 
Old 06-12-2004, 08:01 AM   #5
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drakconf does not offer real help to me. perhaps i should clear out the situation here.

i am using my linux os at the moment. i am posting this from lynx. X will not start anymore. i can't give a clearer picture of the situation, as i have very poor understanding of what linux exactly is. that is the very problem here.

i realize that the command prompt, or the linux/unix shell is the os. i have heard mentions of Xwindows and of many 'X-mishmash' applications, and i believe that X is the core of linux's graphical facade. gnome, kde, etc work on the basis of Xwindow/XFree system. (is this correct?)

when i installed the mandrake 9.2 distro, i chose the gnome gui. mandrake boots up with a graphical desktop with a few basic operational applications. so, now as i so foolishly updated XFree, and let the installer overwrite every possible conf file, i lost that gnome desktop and was left with the basic Xwindow gui, or at least so i believe. i just learned the ctrl-alt-backspace shortcut to 'kill' that session and return to login prompt to shell. so i did and this is where i am.

a) so, what can/should i do - besides re-install - to get gnome/kde/etc working?

b) what exactly is XFree, and is my understanding above correct?

Last edited by uv1; 06-12-2004 at 08:39 AM.
 
Old 06-12-2004, 09:25 AM   #6
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xwmconfig is an unknown command.

please, what is the difference between 'startx' and 'X'? and further, what is the difference between X (at x.org) and XFree86?

neither of them will start anymore. both stop at errors for missing libX-- files, which are located at /usr/share/X11R6/lib/. i don't know in what file i should insert that directory.

Last edited by uv1; 06-12-2004 at 10:42 AM.
 
  


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