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Old 12-20-2010, 07:20 AM   #1
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Smile longing for good guide on linux learning!


though i have been using linux for a year,i find it hard to learn the real things i want!i feel a little frustrated. however,i have a strong desair to have a good knowledge of linux and its OS!
now i am learning bash shell and perl language,but not in a right way!
looking forword to anyone's suggestion!
 
Old 12-20-2010, 07:37 AM   #2
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Welcome to LQ

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now i am learning bash shell and perl language,but not in a right way!
What do you mean with "not in the right way"?
What do you want to learn?

Kind regards
 
Old 12-20-2010, 07:37 AM   #3
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the best way is to practice,i mean try for exemple to set up a squid proxy server for your home internet,or a
BIND dns server
....

there is just a lot to try,and it's fun,and be sure ,you'll learn a lot in this way.and in the right
time.whenever needed

start with the basics first.and GO
 
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Old 12-20-2010, 07:45 AM   #4
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Take a look here:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/advanc...criptingguide/
 
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Old 12-20-2010, 08:23 AM   #5
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well,i just meant "not in an effective way" and i want to learn the amazingly beatiful things behind

What do you mean with "not in the right way"?
What do you want to learn
 
Old 12-20-2010, 08:26 AM   #6
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well,i just meant "not in an effective way" and i want to learn the amazingly beatiful things behind
Then start from the beginning, using the links given by other members.

Kind regards
 
Old 12-20-2010, 08:43 AM   #7
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Hi,

Welcome to LQ!

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though i have been using linux for a year,i find it hard to learn the real things i want!i feel a little frustrated. however,i have a strong desair to have a good knowledge of linux and its OS!
now i am learning bash shell and perl language,but not in a right way!
looking forword to anyone's suggestion!
I do suggest that you look at 'How to Ask Questions the Smart Way' so in the future your queries provide information that will aid us in diagnosis of the problem/query.



Just a few links to aid you to gaining some understanding. Sure some may seem beyond a newbie but you must start somewhere;



Linux Documentation Project
Rute Tutorial & Exposition
Linux Command Guide
Utimate Linux Newbie Guide
LinuxSelfHelp
Getting Started with Linux
Bash Beginners Guide
Bash Reference Manual
Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
Linux Home Networking



The above links and others can be found at 'Slackware-Links'. More than just Slackware® links!
 
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Old 12-20-2010, 08:45 AM   #8
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Hi wang and welcome to LQ,
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...want to learn the amazingly beatiful things behind ...
I'd recommend to install Slackware instead of Ubuntu http://www.slackware.org/. At least install it as dualboot beside Ubuntu. Slackware is a great distribution for people who feel themselfs newbies but want to learn the things behind the gui. Apart from that, you'll find here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/ a very helpful and knowledgeable community.

Markus
 
Old 12-20-2010, 08:54 AM   #9
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...I'd recommend to install Slackware instead of Ubuntu...
That's terrible advice. He's already got a perfectly good distribution. Your recommendation is not helpful. There is no point to asking him to change distributions. Plus, have you noticed that the single most troublesome distribution as measured by posts on this forum is Slackware?
 
Old 12-20-2010, 09:11 AM   #10
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That's terrible advice.
This is your opinion!
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He's already got a perfectly good distribution
good for whom?.
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Your recommendation is not helpful
the OP may decide by himself what he's going to do, we're only collecting experiences here, so every opinion which is not off topic may be helpful.
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There is no point to asking him to change distributions
I recommended dualboot
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Plus, have you noticed that the single most troublesome distribution as measured by posts on this forum is Slackware?
this is nonsense, please don't argue about things you're not experienced with. Further reading: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...stable-829052/

I'm using Slackware since 16 years, and I think that a guy who is learning Perl and Bash tends more to the typical Slackware- than Ubuntuuser.

Markus

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Old 12-20-2010, 09:16 AM   #11
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Hi
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That's terrible advice. He's already got a perfectly good distribution. Your recommendation is not helpful. There is no point to asking him to change distributions. Plus, have you noticed that the single most troublesome distribution as measured by posts on this forum is Slackware?
The reason you see more Slackware activity on the Linux - Newbie , Slackware & Slackware - Installation is that PV & team have selected these forums on LinuxQuestions.org to be the official forums for Slackware.

That doesn't indicate the most troublesome distribution as you have erroneously tagged is Slackware. But that Slackware users do have high interaction with fellow Slackware users. This interaction(s) overflows into other forums here on LQ.

As to the advice given by 'markush' as being terrible on your given merits. Every member has his/her personal opinions as to what should be done. That;s why we have a moderated forum to help each other to a better understanding. I too agree that to switch distribution would not be the best advice at this point in time if Ubuntu meets the OP's need. But to label as: 'That's terrible advice' is not proper on your part.
 
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:44 AM   #12
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Slackware is a great distribution for people who feel themselfs newbies but want to learn the things behind the gui.
You can configure slackware without using the CLI.
You can learn the things behind the GUI on every distro.

Kind regards
 
Old 12-20-2010, 11:59 AM   #13
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Hi,

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You can configure slackware without using the CLI.
You can learn the things behind the GUI on every distro.

Kind regards
You care to expand on the meanings above for everyone? You are going to configure Slackware as root via a visual shell?

As to the second statement, what are you implying here?
What are 'the things behind' that you speak of? A little definition as to the meaning of 'the things behind' would be helpful to everyone to understand.

I wish to preach not the doctrine of ignoble ease, but the doctrine of the strenuous life.”- Theodore Roosevelt
 
Old 12-20-2010, 12:07 PM   #14
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wang,

To learn Bash follow Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide (see: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/). To learn Perl buy Learning Perl, Third Edition (see: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596001322).

The best way of learning both these languages is to write different scripts with the help of mentioned above manuals.
 
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Old 12-20-2010, 12:14 PM   #15
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You care to expand on the meanings above for everyone? You are going to configure Slackware as root via a visual shell?
You can configure and do most things using the GUI, just like the other distro's.
Saying you need to know and use the CLI in order to use and configure slackware isn't correct.
There are enough GUI apps to do so, just like in the other distro's.
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What are 'the things behind' that you speak of? A little definition as to the meaning of 'the things behind' would be helpful to everyone to understand.
I interpreted 'the things behind' from the OP as working with the CLI and understand what happens.
This you can do with every distro, not only slackware.

Kind regards
 
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