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Old 11-27-2008, 02:47 PM   #1
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Angry Linux won't boot up!!! Help. Did Linux get hacked???


Penguin left for Thanksgiving? I am a newbie to Linux, and now I can not get Linux to boot up. Not even able to get to GRUB? What happened?

This is what I see on boot up:
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NVIDIA RAID IDE ROM BIOS 1.13a
Copyright 2003 NVIDIA Corp.
Detecting array ....
I have never seen this before. I have an Award BIOS? It just stops at this screen. If I try to boot up or try to get into the BIOS, it just stops here, after the initial BIOS boot up screen with the harddrive detection.

Did Linux get hacked???
 
Old 11-27-2008, 02:58 PM   #2
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Penguin left for Thanksgiving? I am a newbie to Linux, and now I can not get Linux to boot up. Not even able to get to GRUB? What happened?

This is what I see on boot up:


I have never seen this before. I have an Award BIOS? It just stops at this screen. If I try to boot up or try to get into the BIOS, it just stops here, after the initial BIOS boot up screen with the harddrive detection.

Did Linux get hacked???
It seems to me that it is more likely that there is some wrong with youŕe BIOS ore that BIOS setting get massed up
It might help if you remove the backup battery and change it with a new one.
Do not know how old you,re system is
 
Old 11-27-2008, 03:01 PM   #3
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Gee, Penguin. Is it just a bad battery? Where can I find the battery? It is not a laptop computer, it is a desktop computer that plugs in to the outlet?
 
Old 11-27-2008, 03:28 PM   #4
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Did you plug in a RAID controller? They often have their own BIOS and that seems to be what the message is indicating. If you did plug in a RAID controller you need to look at the manual and see how to disable booting from the RAID ROM.

If you have always been using RAID, what type was it set up for and have you been checking the state of the HDs?
 
Old 11-27-2008, 03:33 PM   #5
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Did you plug in a RAID controller?
No, I do not think so? I have not added anything to the computer since it was working and booting up to GRUB. It just stopped one day?

What is this NVIDIA BIOS? I never had seen this screen display before?
 
Old 11-27-2008, 03:54 PM   #6
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Well, I'm not quite sure what's wrong, but to answer your "What is the BIOS?" question:

The BIOS (Basic Input Output System) is the basic settings for your motherboard to control your various hardware. For example, you can set the boot order of your hard drives / cdroms, to enable booting from a cd and such. You can also change cpu and memory voltages, adjust fan speeds, and turn on/off various features. To get to it, you need to reboot the computer, and when it first starts up there will be a black screen with "Press DEL to enter settings" or something similar. At that point, you hit that key, and wait.

Anyway, It's a little chip that sits on your motherboard, and since it retains settings and time even while your computer is off, it needs its own battery. Therefore, you will see a little (im not quite sure how to describe the size) coin sized? battery (one of those flat round ones), on your motherboard. If you remove that for a few seconds (with the computer off), the settings will be lost, then put it back in, and the next time you start your computer, the bios settings will have all been reset to the defaults.
 
Old 11-27-2008, 04:17 PM   #7
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but to answer your "What is the BIOS?" question:
Yeah, but I was asking what the " NVIDIA RAID IDE ROM BIOS 1.13a" is because I already have an Award BIOS! You told me what the Award BIOS is! I think...

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Old 11-27-2008, 04:50 PM   #8
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Hi Newtovanilla

As part of the normal start-up sequence of your computer, it executes a predefined set of instructions. Those instructions are stored on a ROM chip, and is commonly called `the BIOS'

One thing to bear in mind, is that (almost) each device in computer can have its own ROM chip BIOS. The main system BIOS will detect such things during its start-up sequence, and once it is ready for it, will then call the BIOS of each device that has one.

So this is what happens when you press the power-on switch

<system BIOS>
Init
Load configuration values
Detect basic hardware (CPU,memory,host controller)
Run POST (Power On Self Test)
Call BIOSes of on-board and plug-in cards
Try to boot an OS

It is very possible that your RAID card is actually integrated in your motherboard, but it still is considered a PCI (Express) card, and treated as such by your system.

I think the solution to your problem, is to enter the system setup screen. You usually get instructions on how to do this during your POST stage. Very common keys to press are DEL, F1, F2, F11

Once you have entered the system setup screen, look around and search for an option called 'Boot Order' (or similar), and change it so that it will try to boot from your hard disk before anything else (or, if you wish, set it to boot from your optical drive first, and your hard disk second).

Let me know how you get on with this.
 
Old 11-27-2008, 07:16 PM   #9
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Okay, I found the BIOS manual and there is an entry for raid in the BIOS, but it is an Award BIOS. And, I did not change that setting from what it was before. And, when I boot up and hit DEL key, then it says "entering setup", then shows that "NVIDIA RAID BIOS" screen, and gets stuck there and does not enter the BIOS setup!

Did the Penguin leave for Thanksgiving dinner?
 
Old 11-27-2008, 09:17 PM   #10
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ok enough with the "Penguin" remarks. Your BIOS has nothing to do with Linux. If it can't even enter the BIOS settings, then perhaps your bios battery is the problem, or even the bios itself.

And it's not an "NVIDIA BIOS". It's an Award BIOS, like you said. Your motherboard has an nVidia chipset.

By the way, did you check google? http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...e+Search&meta=
 
Old 11-27-2008, 09:21 PM   #11
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Do I understand that you can start to enter setup, but the process freezes and you get that raid bios message, and you have tried a couple of times? First try the battery.

1 Go down to your nearest electronics store or computer shop and buy a static protector (a wrist strap with clip) and a standard small flat computer battery. Ask.

2 Find your motherboard manual.

3 Put your computer tower on something insulating (sheets of newspaper, wood),take a Nr.2 Phillips screwdriver and open the case. Touch something with a ground, put the strap on and clip yourself to the metal of the case.

4 Find the battery (the shiny coin), flip it out and put the new one in. The side with the markings is up.

5 Find and note the name and model number of your motherboard including rev or ver, Its usually the largest thing printed there and may be between the pci slots.

6 While you're in there clean the blocked heat exchanger fins under the fan on your processor with a pipe cleaner or a piece of straw and see if any of the components on the board are encrusted (leaking capacitors, a bad sign).

7 Put it back together and see if this helped. If not, find the manual or google using the exact name and model for the motherboard and read up on clearing your BIOS.

8 Post back or go online for for more on how to clear a BIOS.

9 This proceedure isn't exspensive, doesn't take long, and isn't hard.

10 You might find an illustrated guide to all this online, if you you have access to a working machine

11 Good Luck. Faint heart ne'er won...
 
Old 11-27-2008, 09:38 PM   #12
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I rather think that the problem has to do with one (or more) the hard drives or the RAID settings. Hard disk failures can happen anytime, maybe it already had problems, but only now reached a critical state.

Try to boot from a LiveCD to narrow down the possibilities.

Last edited by Tinkster; 10-30-2010 at 05:11 PM.
 
Old 11-27-2008, 09:53 PM   #13
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A second idea. This started after you installed linux? Did it start just after? You made no other changes to the computer except to install linux? If the problem persists after a new battery, open it up again and disconnect one end of the cable to your harddisk, then try to enter your setup. If you can enter your BIOS there should be a setting for RAID that you can change. I have a Gigabyte GA-M56S-S3 board which has a provision for RAID that I once activated. I then found that the loading process stopped after the table listing my devices, that is when the BIOS looks for an operating system, with a message similar to yours.
 
Old 11-27-2008, 10:03 PM   #14
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ok enough with the "Penguin" remarks. Your BIOS has nothing to do with Linux. If it can't even enter the BIOS settings, then perhaps your bios battery is the problem, or even the bios itself.

And it's not an "NVIDIA BIOS". It's an Award BIOS, like you said. Your motherboard has an nVidia chipset.

By the way, did you check google? http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...e+Search&meta=
newtovanilla pops in every now and babbles........take a look at some of his previous post history.
 
Old 11-28-2008, 01:05 PM   #15
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Try to boot from a LiveCD to narrow down the possibilities.
Does not boot up from Linux installation CD, goes to same "NVIDIA RAID BIOS" screen and stops.

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Find the battery (the shiny coin), flip it out and put the new one in
Want to try that, but don't have new battery at the momemnt.

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provision for RAID that I once activated. I then found that the loading process stopped after the table listing my devices, that is when the BIOS looks for an operating system, with a message similar to yours.
could be same problem? I don't think I set any RAID?

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pops in every now and babbles........take a look at some of his previous post history.
Thank! Are you going to help solve problem? Penguin cheers!
 
  


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