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Old 01-25-2014, 03:09 PM   #1
Chuck E
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Linux Start Up Options?


Newb User here. I started using Knoppix 6.7 (Adrianne - wasn't paying attention to what I clicked on) when my Dell Latitude D610 started misbehaving probably due to my frustration in dealing with Microsoft Security Essentials that seemed to hijack the computer whenever I went to use it taking up all of the processor functions. The only way I could get back control was to hold the power switch down until it shut off and start over. I guess maybe that caused head crashes and made my hard disk bad because I started getting BSOD. Knoppix 6.7 helped me get into the computer and save almost the whole computer with all of the files I would really miss wirelessly to a 1 TB USB drive on another computer on the network. I have Knoppix installed on a 16GB memory stick and it worked well until I tried using GParted just to see if it would find errors. It did find some (that I don't recall because I've been working on the computer for about 1 year) but now when I start up it seems like the hard disk access light stays on while Knoppix goes looking for a boot in that drive. It takes about 45 minutes to finally get going and the drive light goes out. All this time I have to sit by the computer to keep the screen saver from coming on so that it finishes loading.

My question is what file on the flash drive can I alter so that during start up the hard drive is ignored until Knoppix finishes loading and where do I find that file? I like the computer and have found Knoppix to be really helpful in saving years of work and getting into a 500 GB usb drive that no longer behaves with Windows but is accessible with Linux and I can't really afford to get a new hard drive at this time. Knoppix can no longer access the hard drive except with the System Profiler and Benchmark tool where I can see the name and manufacturer of the drive. None of the other tools will work on it. If I click GParted in just starts scanning and never comes back.
 
Old 01-25-2014, 05:23 PM   #2
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Install knoppix again.
 
Old 01-25-2014, 05:57 PM   #3
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but use the current Knoppix 7.2

as to any command ?????
what Operatingsystem is starting ?
Knoppix ?
or something else ?
you mention "MS's Windows Security Essentials"

so if this is a Windows OS , you might want to ask on a MS windows forum

likely you will want to hack the HKEY_ROOT_?????
yes using "regedit.exe"
to see what is indeed set as a start up program in the "RUN" and "RUNONCE" reg. key
 
Old 01-25-2014, 07:14 PM   #4
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I guess I'm not being clear. I'm booting Knoppix 6.7 from a flash drive in order to use a Dell Latitude D610 in which the hard drive is defective. It seems that when Knoppix boots it is trying to access that hard drive and takes a long time to boot. I thought there might be a file in Knoppix that I could alter so that it doesn't go looking for the hard drive. I can't run 7.2 even though I have it on a CD none of the computers I have seem to be able to read the disk. It may be that there was a problem burning the ISO files. I tried the DVD version once but it wasn't able to fit on a DVD so I gave up on that one. The computer that burned the CDs is now having hard drive trouble so I don't think I can burn anything on it now. That machine is also running Knoppix 6.7 but from a CD that I made when I started having trouble with the Dell. Forget about the Microsoft stuff. That was what I thought caused my original problem with the hard drive. Right now Windows doesn't work on either machine because of bad disk drives. I only have one flash drive at this time so I just want to stick to the Knoppix I have.

So I guess the main question is can I change the way Knoppix boots so that it doesn't try to find the hard drive and take a long time to boot?
 
Old 01-25-2014, 07:24 PM   #5
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Not much point re-installing Knoppix - it's apparently working fine off a USB stick. If this was merely installed as an iso, there probably isn't much you can do to stop it scanning for /dev nodes. If the internal disk is stuffed and causing problems on boot simply disconnect it.

Edit: - oops, took too long getting a coffee - missed your last post.

Last edited by syg00; 01-25-2014 at 07:25 PM.
 
Old 01-25-2014, 07:39 PM   #6
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is it a REAL install to the usb
the old knoppix 6 did not do well that way .

if it is just the iso placed on the usb using "dd" or some " bootable usb creator" in windows,
then it is a ISO image of the LIVE knoppik

there is no editing knoppix unless you recreate a custom iso to but on the thumb drive

knoppix 7.2 can be installed to a hard drive like a non live os

however during the bootup you have options
and one is no gui
knoppix GUI boot will auto place EVERY partition and drive on the desktop
if one of them is messed up it will stall and then have to "time out" -- likely 350 seconds

do a text only boot to the terminal ( see the on screen booting options )



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I can't run 7.2 even though I have it on a CD none of the computers I have seem to be able to read the disk.
HOW did you "burn" the cd ?
a "DATA cd" will NOT boot !!!( the windows DEFAULT TYPE )
you have to " BURN AS IMAGE "
and winXP dose NOT have that support built in
and i do not think vista or 7 do also

you MUST use a third party program to " Burn a IMAGE"
I like CDBurnnerXP on windows ( and yes it will work on win7 64 bit )
https://cdburnerxp.se/


after you boot to the text only terminal ,then WHAT is it you want to do ?
???
fix the drive ?
recover files ?
what ?


i would buy a new drive

it is likely that you will not be able to "salvage" files off the dead disk
if it is only a partition table that is fixable
but if it has been going "BAD" for some time ........

if all you need is to "fix" windows
reinstall win7 or vista on a new drive
 
Old 01-25-2014, 07:54 PM   #7
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I figure I have a real usb boot because when I had Knoppix 6.7 running I did an "install to flash" and it works. I just rebooted it after trying a DOS flash update of the CD/DVD drive which seemed to work but I can't get any CD or DVD to read. Right now the Knoppix screen says:
Searching for Knoppix 6 in : /dev/sdb
That's where the boot hangs up for a long time.

I don't know what I'm trying to accomplish now. I was already LUCKY enough to have saved almost all of the hard drive off to a 1TB USB drive so I don't really hope to fix the hard drive (screen saver just came on the boot - I hit enter to wake it up - if I don't when I come back to it there are a bunch of timeouts) I guess I'm just using the machine to explore Linux, this version of it anyway until I can get it a new HD drive. The machine was "designed for Windows XP" and that's what it's going to get. I haven't been impressed with anything past Vista.

I did use a third party ISO burner, the name of which I can't recall or retrieve. It took it's time, looked like it was working, said it was finished and the DVD appears to have been written to but no machine I have can see anything. It just comes up looking like a blank disk with 0 bytes used and 0 bytes available. I've got a stack of similar disks not all from the same burning program but useless.

Thanks to all of you for your time. I'll consider this closed but will keep checking back.

Last edited by Chuck E; 01-25-2014 at 07:57 PM.
 
  


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