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Why does it seem everytime I have a freeze and have to reboot linux due to some bug in linux or Linux programs, the machine during next login seems slugish and lazy? Does Linux not fix itself well like Windows.. Is there any way to check if there's some malicious error from a bug running in the machine.
Right now Mozilla Firefox stats in Process Table is VMSIZE: 105,408
and right below that is Kded at VMSIZE: 74,540... Then X is taking up 40,000... These seem right?
And also for some reason I'm getting 9.640 fps in glxgears now opposed to 3000 FPS from a few boots ago... Have the new nvidia drivers.
Not enough information to give you anything. Those are reasonable values for memory usage. Developers aren't as memory conscious as they once were. It doesn't make sense to dump resources into that anymore.
You obviously have something wrong, but the chance that it's due to something malicious is small. Windows doesn't fix itself either. It requires a great deal of effort to maintain a Windows system. For the most part it's busy work that wastes your time but you have to do it. Examples are full reinstallation, running a virus scanner (which either slows your system down sometimes or all the time depending on how it's configured), defragging the file system, reinstalling drivers, killing processes with ctrl-alt-delete, etc. And these are all things I haven't had to do in YEARS.
My questions to you are:
- What distribution are you running?
- What kernel version are you running?
- Whats the output of dmesg?
- Are those nvidia patches compatible with your stuff?
- When did it change? What were you doing when it changed?
I hope you know I mean to condescension with my Windows comments. I'm always so bothered when other people are having these sorts of problems in Linux because this has not been my experience.
Running the incorrect display drivers can cause your system to feel slower than it actually is. This is just because the GUI isn't getting any backup from your video card and it lagging behind the CPU which is trying to manage everything by itself.
glxinfo | grep direct
ls -l /usr/lib | grep GL
The output of those commands should shine some light on the nvidia issue
Well When I Run lsmod under agpgart it says intel_agp, nvidia... I have a onboard video graphics card. Could this be my problem? In bios the only option is Onboard graphcis :On or Auto I have it on Auto.... How do I remove this and get ls -l /usr/lib | grep GL to show me some info!?!?
however, the ls -l /usr/lib | grep GL displayed Nothing at all.
Err, that's probably not the answer I was expecting :/ How about this one to find where libGL is hiding. If this returns nothing then a reinstall of the Nvidia driver is required and maybe some Xorg stuff too.
I'll let you know what I'm looking for so you can look for yourself if you like. Nvidia ships with it's own versions of libGL, rather than just jump in and take over, they name them as libGL.so.1.0.8762 and then symlink libGL.so to their version. Basically you need to check that your libGL.so is pointing to the right file. If it's not then just reinstalling the nvidia drivers should fix it.
Also fyi, /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/nvidia folder contains libglx.so.1.0.8756 and libglx.so linked to the other file... Why am I getting the info from /usr/X11R6/lib when the Xorg.conf says its reading the files from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/nvidia.. Is everything looking ok for my setuP?
Thanks Alot for all your great help CS
Last edited by soulxcavtor; 05-27-2006 at 08:56 PM.
Everything is looking wrong for your setup but at least we know the problem libGL looks like it's pointing to the MesaGL library (and an old version at that!) which is a software renderer. Software == slow. Easily fixed though, you just need to reinstall the Nvidia driver, you may need to run ldconfig afterwards as root. Run the Nvidia installer like this to make sure it puts your libs in the right place:
cs-cam, I've enjoyed reading your feedback. Great work! I had a couple of questions though.
I dumped nvidia a couple of years ago when a couple of different cards I had started to go bad on me. Never had that with other graphics cards even though they were inferior in performance. I'm mostly a coder so I've never pushed my cards to more than playing an occasional dvd movie. Have you had any similar problems with nvidia literally burning out?
I also became irritated with using their proprietary drivers. Everytime I did an X upgrade, I would have to deal the usual reinstall of nvidia. I finally started to use the "nv" open source driver just because it was simpler and required no extra configuration. What are the advantages/differences in running the proprietary drivers verses the open source? I may return to nvidia someday simply because I'm so greatful that a company produces drivers for Linux.
Any thoughts on some of this are much appreciated.