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Old 03-04-2004, 11:23 AM   #1
LotharSNL
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Linux on Mac?


Hello everyone! Please bare with me... Not at all familiar.

I would like to use Linux on my Mac to the end of using the PC v of Everquest. I read that it's possible to use EQ (transgaming.com/gamepage.php?gameid=10) through Linux.

Ideally, I would be able to use Linux when I wanted to play EQ, and keep my OS X.3 setup I have currently (with all due respect, of course). Is the only way to run Linux on a Mac through a virtual computer program, like VPC? If that isn't feasible, could I run Linux directly on my G4, and then EQ? I assume that even if EQ would run, running on top of the transgaming software, linux, some type of host ap for linux, & OS X, would not run very well. If it would run fine, outstanding! Could you tell me how? If not, is there a way to cut some of that out w/ a G4?

If someone knows of anyway to use the PC version of Everquest on a Mac, I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Regardless of that, I am curious... Can I use my G4 system purely as a Linux box?

Thanks in advance!
 
Old 03-04-2004, 11:38 AM   #2
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Running PC Linux in an emulator like Bochs, vmware, etc, is possible. This is the way you should go. There are PowerPC versions of linux: www.yelllowdoglinux.com , but running PC programs, even on the PPC Linux, is difficult. They are compiled for x86 processors, and hence only using an emulator is feasible.
 
Old 03-04-2004, 12:33 PM   #3
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OS X is linux...
 
Old 03-04-2004, 12:38 PM   #4
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OS X is based on BSD UNIX... You need an emulator becuase stuff like Wine can't run the x86 compiled stuff on a PPC processor. I heard it is possible to run recompiled Windows stuff with Darwine on OS X.
 
Old 03-04-2004, 05:00 PM   #5
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Quote:
Originally posted by michaelk
OS X is linux...
How shall I put this?
Short version: No, it's not!

While OSX shares some components (like the GNU utilities that come with the OS) with Linux they are by no matter how you look at it the same. Linux is Linux and I do not believe OSX contains a single line of Linux code.

Darwin, which is what the OSX core is called, is however - like aaa noted - based on the Berkely Software Distribution. Actually, it is based on OpenStep which in turn was based NeXTStep, which in turn was based on BSD. Nothing about Linux. OSX uses a variant of the Mach microkernel while Linux is a monolithic kernel (although with support for kernel-modules). They are simply not the same.

Both are UNIX-like operating systems, that's as far as I can stretch.


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Old 03-04-2004, 05:54 PM   #6
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It sounds plausible that you could run Everquest by running it through Wine under Linux under VPC, but the performance hit would be such that it would render it unplayable; assuming EQ fully works under Wine. Why not just get the MAC edition of EQ? Wouldn't that save you a lot of hassle?
 
Old 03-04-2004, 07:31 PM   #7
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions!

Using the Mac version of EQ would be great. If the current PC accounts could be accessed, and played, on the Mac game, or if they shared the same servers, i would absolutely do that. I am trying to get the PC v to work on a Mac due to the people involved, and their pre-existing accounts, and network of friends, etc.

I tried this years ago on an iMac, using Connectix VPC either 3, or 4. I got as far as the log in screen, and that's when I discovered that VPC didn't extend 3D, or much VRAM, to Windows, or whatever system was in it. I have been waiting for a VPC release that has added the extra video capabilities, and they haven't gotten there yet. I thought about looking into an open source solution assuming the Linux world would be the first to solve the 3D support. I discovered the transgaming.com/gamepage.php?gameid=10 page, and was encouraged.

I have been trying to use Bochs since aaa suggested it, but I am beginning to wonder if it will work with OS X.3.2. I followed the instructions, and at some point what happens isn't what is described. I am about to ask about it on the Bochs discussion board (http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.p...forum_id=39592).

I hope this isn't all too far off of what is supposed to be asked about here. I am just so ignorant about all the non-Mac stuff. I was hoping I might get lucky, and find a member of the underground PC EQ users on Mac society.

Thanks again very much! I appreciate your efforts.
 
Old 03-08-2004, 05:28 PM   #8
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I dont think EQ will work under emulation within emulation due to the 3D OpenGL/DirectX stuff. I know for a fact it runs very well under Winex on a redhat machine. If there is a Mac EQ client, use that instead. I gave up on Evercrack a long time ago......try FFXI
 
Old 03-27-2004, 05:35 AM   #9
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memory question for linux on imac?

I have a G3 266mhz Imac..had it for while collecting dust. decided to play with it then read an article about being able to load linux on Imac. I have messed with linux before and like Mandrake best so far. I downloaded ISO images of Mandrake for Mac and also Yellowdog, then burned disk and tried to load Mandrake and system would freeze after bit. Then i tried Yellowdog and it told me I could only load it in text mode because I did not have enough memory.

My question is after sifting through the mountain of stuff about Imac I have discovered I can upgrade memory up to 512Mb on that particular one. But that I will need to have Firmware 2.1 installed to recognize the memory. Is the Firmware 2.1 like flashing the bios on a PC?...and if so how do i go about it? It a bit confusing for me because I am a PC person (have nothing against Mac, heard suppose to be real good machines, just never messed with one much).

Also if i format the harddrive and only want the linux on it ...is that going to cause a problem with the memory not being recognized if the Firmware is not a bios thing but more a software OS thing?

Imac G3 266mhz
32MB Ram
8MB video(cant upgrade this according to apple site)
tray loading cd-rom
running OS 8.5.1

any help would be appreciated or point in right direction..

thank you much

Empress :)

;)
sorry meant to post this as a thread new to posting ..sorry

Last edited by empress; 03-27-2004 at 05:44 AM.
 
Old 03-28-2004, 05:52 PM   #10
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Try looking here for info on upgrading firmware on the iMac: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60385


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