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Distorted.Clarity 06-10-2010 09:08 PM

Linux Mint install/live issue
 
mint version 9

when running the live disk the Mint logo shows up but looks like its ripping across the screen. first sign that this isn't going to go so well. tried installing it inside windows so i didn't have to make a partiton. same thing with the loading screen there also. once that screen is gone i'm left with a black screen.
so live and install not working. whats the deal?
i want to install this and mandriva. once i get all my files off this windows partition i was just going to format and install both but it looks like i need to figure out what the deal is. last thing i want is to format and then just have to toss xp back on here.

AlphaSigmaOne 06-10-2010 09:22 PM

Err... This might sound obvious, but is the CD okay? Did you verify the checksum?

jefro 06-10-2010 09:37 PM

What you installed is a different way to install linux. I think that is the same as what is called wubi. It does seem to work well on some installs but fails on others.

If you want to fix it we'd need to know a bit more of what you see.

Did you turn off the computer completely and then try to reboot?

The order ought to be something like this after you finish bios. http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opens...nux%20Mint%209

Do you get any kind of choice or menu?

If you want to check the cd you can reboot and press the space bar when you see the greem splash screen for menu choices. One is to test cd.

We might offer other ways such as virtual machines or pendrive installs.

Distorted.Clarity 06-10-2010 09:45 PM

there arent any errors when i checksum the disk.

Distorted.Clarity 06-10-2010 09:50 PM

i did reboot after install.
i got the first screen and then the 2ed on mine says "mint. and w/e their catch line is"
once that screen is supposed to jump into the desktop all i see is black.
that happens when trying to boot it from the HD and from the live disk.
i have reburnt this disk about 5 times once using my brothers new viao laptop, and using different media disks.

only one time have i ever been able to get to the desktop but it still looked messed up. that was using the live lxde disk i downloaded from them.

Distorted.Clarity 06-10-2010 10:02 PM

as for mandriva i jumped into the install for it and was checking that it knows what hardware i have.
everything was found excluding my modem (dail-up junk).
so since it sees my wifi would that be enough of a clue that once installed the wifi will work?
i ask because i really wanted to dump windows today. if you guys can figure out the mint issue then i can install that later.

jefro 06-11-2010 04:03 PM

"so live and install not working. whats the deal?"

I am going to guess slightly unsupported video card or monitor. Might have to boot to vesa or select screen lower resolution.

Distorted.Clarity 06-11-2010 05:19 PM

here are the specs.

Code:

MSI MEGA 180
Description:
Special Features:
• Home Theater PC
- Create, Watch, Edit Rich Media Content in Your Living Room
- Surf the Web and Play Internet Games Wirelessly
- Instant on CD / Radio / MP3 support
• Bundled MSI Media Center Deluxe Software
• 5.1ch Surround Sound
• Intelligent Color LCD Display
• Built-in WiFi
• 6 in 1 Media Card Reader
• AMD Processor Support

Product Specifications:

System Features
• Supports Socket 462 for AMD® Duron™ and Athlon™ XP processors up to 3000+
• nVIDIA nForce2 (Crush 18G) + MCP2T Chipset
• Supports up to 2 DIMMs , 2.0GB DDR 333 memory
• Supports 1 x 8X AGP Slot
• Supports 1 x PCI 32 bit Slot


Audio Features
• Instant-ON CD / MP3 and Radio Features
• Support for 5.1ch Surround Sound Audio
• nVIDIA SoundStorm™ Dolby® Digital (Needs Dolby Receiver)
• Dual Optical SPIDIF In / Out (Front / Rear)


Video Features
• Integrated nForce2 (8X AGP)
• Dual VGA out
• S-Video Out


Communication Features
• Wireless LAN 802.11B
• 10/100Mbps LAN
• 56K Modem


Front Panel Connectivity
• Optical SPIDIF in
• Mic-In
• Headphone Jack
• USB 2.0 x2
• IEEE 1394 Firewire x 2 (6 pin and 4 pin)
• 6 in 1 Media Card Reader


Rear Panel Connectivity
• Dual VGA
• PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
• LAN Port (RJ-45)
• USB 2.0 x2
• Parallel Port
• S-Video
• Optical SPIDIF Out
• Speaker-out / Line-in / Mic – in (5.1ch)
• 56K Modem
• AGP Slot
• PCI Slot

the video is dual vga, i figured maybe once it loaded that it was displaying on the wrong vga. so i swapped, still a no go.
i have never seen the ripping look on an install before like this does. the mint logo is on the right side of the screen but it also is on the left looking like it's scrambled porn or something from back in the day. the right side isn't totally clear but enough to know what it says.
i would have to assume that it is the graphics. could the monitor actually do this?
monitor
Code:

Acer x213w
21.6" wide diagonally
160 degree viewing angle (horizontal and vertical)
1680 x 1050 (recommended resolution)
DVI (with HDCP) and VGA inputs
300 nits brightness
2500:1
5 ms response time
AC 100 - 240 V, 50 - 60 Hz, 1.5 A
eColor
Not height or angle adjustable
No speakers
Vista optimized

this is driving me a little crazy. i don't want mandriva as my main distro as everyone says i should use something based off of ubuntu as my first linux experance. since mint has that back bone and codex for me to convert video and all that i figured why not. i think it also has vlc player and i use that constantly!

is there some kind of trick, edit, prayer i could do to get mint to submit to being my friend.. if need be ill do dumb stuff like poke it on facebook.
what is versa?

jefro 06-11-2010 05:43 PM

At some point in the boot of mint you should see something green or maybe dot's that are white and/or green. Press the space bar.

Vesa is what I said. Every (almost) video card supports an old system called vesa. Almost very disto has a way to put or select the vesa driver.

Distorted.Clarity 06-11-2010 06:55 PM

i'll try that, question first..
just installed mandriva 2010. now if i actually get mint to install will i have to configure anything or will it run threw. i ask because with the reading i have done, people talked about how they accidentally scrubbed out the user area.. drawing a blank on what it's called.. home or user partition? i would assume this is the area where your personal settings are?
i just want them to share w/e that area is, if that is possible.
also with mint does it have the same update type tool in it? i like the simplicity of being linux-dumb and yet the system is helping me along.

jefro 06-11-2010 09:14 PM

OK, lemme get this straight. You have and like mandrivia and you want to share some area between mint?

One thing I want to say is this. I don't make partitions just for /home or /var or anything. As to how your install is, you will have to carefully determine if you do have mounted partitions before you begin. Might have to write them down based on size as well as it's logical order. People on learning setup installs go crazy sometimes and make it way too complex. That is where the lost /home or whatever comes in.

As for sharing data that is another deal. Both systems ought to be able to mount the others filesystem. If you mean that you want some other partition to be shared then the steps are the same. You could get very fine with how you mount a filesystem and offer it to a user. You could mount a folder on a partition and offer it only at boot.

Distorted.Clarity 06-11-2010 10:56 PM

i wouldn't say "i like it". it's more like i am new to it and am currently frustrated, in the long run though at least i'm no longer on windows.
the mandriva format that made the areas of how it wanted to install had, what i would think, is a partition.. maybe its part of a single partition. really it doesn't matter.
seeing how lost i am in mandriva just makes me think before taking on anything else, maybe i should spend a crazy amount of time figuring out what i'm doing. like for instance, i hit ctrl-alt-f1 and was lost.. it was like watching the tv show lost, 5 billion questions and no way back to gui that i could see. god i hate feeling computer stupid, lol.

jefro 06-12-2010 04:40 PM

I only know this because I have spent 25 years making mistakes.

the ctrl deal would be to keep going up in numbers. Usually F1 or F7 or F8 does it.

We have to get the live cd working before we try to install.

Did you understand what I meant about finding out what partitions you have?

Did you ever try the space bar at boot?


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