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Old 07-19-2007, 12:29 PM   #1
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Linux Linpus 9.2 - without X


Hello,

I have bought computer Acer Aspire T136,
and seller (www.verkkokauppa.com) really says that Linux Linpus 9.2 has not X.

...and I assume that it's really so, when I login with "root" and try to "startx" - linux says "Command not found".

Well problem is not that,
real problem is that I think that sounds are not working on computer, and Acer informs me that I have to test this with Linux Linpus 9.2 (without X), OS has to be same as it was when I bought the computer.
Well, I don't know how I can test sounds.

I just can login but nothing else,
please help me, what I have to do?

Thanks!
 
Old 07-19-2007, 01:31 PM   #2
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This is the first time I have heard of Linpus, and a quick
look over their website (and a google search) weren't very
revealing. The "normal" process to enable X for me would
be to look for the X executable; that is, once you're logged
in, press X (a capital letter X) followed by two tabs ...

Does it show anything? If yes, X is installed but not set-up.
If no - contact Linpus support, I have no idea how their system
is set-up, how their package management works or anything else
about them ....



Cheers,
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:07 PM   #3
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I've seen one pc this far with Linpus pre-installed. Basically it was bought because of it's price (it was a lot cheaper than equivalent with Windows). Anyway, Linpus seems to be non-European (?) RPM distribution, to me it seemed like it's based off Fedora or something. The settings were odd in the machine I saw, it could of course access the net right away (btw: it did have X working right out of the box, can't remember the version exactly but I think it was 9-something), but some things like package manager didn't work quite well (in that specific case, reposities didn't work out of the box). It looked fine, but I got the picture that it was aimed at the Asian people, and therefore it may well have trouble in Europe, with European settings and so on. Of course everything can be configured but to me it's easier to just reinstall another OS (in that case, Fedora 6) over it and have local settings mostly configured during the setup.

About sound. Well, you would want to get something out of the speakers. First check if there is somekind of mixer that you can use to make sure the mixer levels are something else than muted; try
Code:
aumix
if it's installed, but if not, something like
Code:
find / -name "*mix*" | grep bin | less
and hope to get something. After you've checked mixer levels (and that your speakers are powered), pick up some audio file and play it. Everybody has some audio files these days, but you can see if there is something on board already:
Code:
find / -name "*.mp3"
and if you can't find anything, try the same for .wav, .ogg etc. Then just find out a player app;
Code:
man -k mp3
for example that should (hopefully) show some manpages about apps that know mp3 format. Hope that you get 'mpg321' or something, and try if it's installed. Start playing,
Code:
mpg321 /path/to/the/file.mp3
or whatever player/format you use, and see if you get sound, errors or nothing. That's a start.

X:
Code:
ls /etc/X11
if there's something, you can well have X installed; binaries reside under /etc/X11/bin/ or something. If that directory does not exist, it could be there is no X installed. Simple solution is to make the package manager work (yum?) and fetch X (Xorg) packages with it, or hunt down the rpm packages (and dependencies) and install them via
Code:
rpm -i /path/to/package.rpm
or everything at once,
Code:
rpm -i /path/to/*.rpm
Quoted from linpus.com
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Headquartered in National Nan-Gang Software Park, Taipei, Taiwan, Linpus Technologies, Inc. is a privately held company funded by leading IT companies such as Acer IP Fund One and MiTAC. For more information about Linpus, please visit http://www.linpus.com or contact marketing@linpus.com.
 
Old 07-20-2007, 12:14 AM   #4
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Quote:
press X (a capital letter X) followed by two tabs ...
Thanks,
I'll test this in couple days.
Btw,
did you mean that I have to wrote
"Xfirstabsecondtab"

firsttabsecondtab means two tabulator
 
Old 07-20-2007, 12:17 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cocu
Btw,
did you mean that I have to wrote
"Xfirstabsecondtab"
No, it means you have to press the tab key twice.
 
Old 07-20-2007, 12:17 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by b0uncer
Anyway, Linpus seems to be non-European (?)
actually this bought from Europe,
but I don't know the details of Linpus.
 
Old 07-20-2007, 12:18 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Nylex
No, it means you have to press the tab key twice.
...I meant that
Thanks!
 
Old 07-23-2007, 10:47 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b0uncer
X:
Code:
ls /etc/X11
if there's something, you can well have X installed; binaries reside under /etc/X11/bin/ or something. If that directory does not exist, it could be there is no X installed. Simple solution is to make the package manager work (yum?) and fetch X (Xorg) packages with it, or hunt down the rpm packages (and dependencies) and install them via
Code:
rpm -i /path/to/package.rpm
or everything at once,
Code:
rpm -i /path/to/*.rpm
Hi, thanks for help.

I didn't manage to use "find" commands, because I can't find " -mark, because keyboard settings are incorrect.

I couldn't test sounds, I just don't know how to...

I found that I really have /etc/X11 -folder but there is not /bin -folder under that.

What I should do for next?

Thanks again!
 
Old 07-23-2007, 12:11 PM   #9
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Have you seen the Larko blog at http://larko.wordpress.com/tag/linpus/ which is about Linpus? If you click the link "wrote to the dealer" is shows a letter from Larko (in Finnish) to Verkkokauppa.

Make life easy for yourself and install a different distro!
 
Old 07-24-2007, 12:34 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cocu
I found that I really have /etc/X11 -folder but there is not /bin -folder under that.
That's how it should be really, as /etc is for configuration files, rather than binaries. The binaries for X are probably in /usr/X11/bin or something similar.
 
  


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