linux is suppost to be stable?

santasballz · 02-24-2004, 06:58 PM

why am i oftening finding my cursor dieing (i still can move it, but i cannot click on anything), programs freezing or shutting down, freezing in screensaver, etc. my suse 9 pro is a fresh install i dunno why these things r happening.

also right now my video player kaffeine is frozen.. like i click on the exit button but nothing happens, it doesn't close, and doesn't play things. i dun think its responding.
u know how in windows, u can press control + alt +delted to terminate a frozen program? how do i do that in linux?

jtshaw · 02-24-2004, 07:04 PM

well, if you open up a terminal and type ps -A you can get a list of all the running processes. If you type kill -s KILL and the pid listed in ps for a process it will kill it.

I certainly wouldn't be surprised if there is a gui app you have that will do that too, but I just always use the command line tools.

win32sux · 02-24-2004, 07:05 PM

there's a program called "xkill" that can be used to kill x processes that are screwed...

or you can open a terminal and do a "ps aux" and then "kill" the process using it's id...

when one's linux is properly set-up, one would hardly ever need to use these tools though...

something's is OBVIOUSLY not right in your system... it's not that linux isn't stable...

chestnut · 02-24-2004, 07:07 PM

One way you can do this is to open up a new terminal (ctl, alt & function key), log in as root, view process with top, and kill the offending ones (x-server if your x session has bombed?) You can then log out, and switch back to original terminal (again woth ctl, alt & function key)

ie. processes listed under top are listed with numerical identifier. If process is numbered 2034, kill it with
kill 2034

frieza · 02-24-2004, 07:10 PM

yeah... don't blame linux, it's probably one of the programs you are running that's meddling things up.... i'd try running the programs you use one at a time until you get the results, then find a substitute for that program, or at the verry least try to reinstall it... or perhaps you are trying to run too much for your machine to handle....

santasballz · 02-24-2004, 07:11 PM

thx for the fast reply

about the program xkill, do i have to dl it somewhere or does it come with the packages in the cd?

frieza · 02-24-2004, 07:13 PM

xkill should be installed per default with the x packages, so you should be able to use it without problems, although i'd reccomend you switch to mplayer or Xine for video....

santasballz · 02-24-2004, 07:15 PM

ok, thx

frieza · 02-24-2004, 07:16 PM

yeah, good luck

toastermaker · 02-24-2004, 07:54 PM

Don't know about your distro but with mine pressing the control+alt+esc keys turns my mouse into a skull and crossbones, I position it over an app that needs killed and right click or press enter and it kills the app.
Of course that wont help with a process that doesn't have something showing on the desktop but at time its convenient.

frieza · 02-24-2004, 08:01 PM

that i think isn't distro dependant, but window manager developed, because windowmaker does not have this feature

santasballz · 02-24-2004, 08:10 PM

when i go into terminal, and type xkill, i get that skull thing and if i click on anyprogram it gets terminated.
is tehre anyway i can make it into the shortcut key like control+alt +del or soemthing? so its faster and i won't have to go in terminal each time and type it

edit: i got it

frieza · 02-24-2004, 08:17 PM

congrats... perhaps you could share how you did it for the rest of us?

Atmchicago · 02-24-2004, 08:18 PM

I think the KDE system guard is the program you want to use - looks a lot like winxp/win2k's ctrl+alt+del. It comes bundled with KDE, and Suse is a KDE distro, so that should work.

KDE menu --> system --> kde system guard.

santasballz · 02-28-2004, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frieza
congrats... perhaps you could share how you did it for the rest of us?

ya, i just went into the key board short cut menu in my control place
xkill dindt have a shortcut key so i assigned one

anyway, but i dunno why now xkill doesnt work anymore... it worked 2 days ago, not anymore...