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Old 02-19-2011, 11:09 AM   #31
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The thing is that I don't have linux installed in this machine yet, mainly because the optical drive px-760A doesn't seem to work...
I could use a virtual machine, but I'm not sure all the devices information are redirected as is, or whether what is showed in the virtual machine are also virtual devices.
Do you want me to try that?
edit: I tried it but I got hundreds of lines that I don't understand. Still not sure it's relevant since I'm not sure whether it talks about my hardware or virtual hardware.

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Old 02-19-2011, 11:35 AM   #32
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Hi,

Using a virtual machine will get you different results and not consistent with exactly the hardware you have installed. If you could prepare a USB stick with Unetbootin and a Linux LiveCD, then you could boot from that into a Linux environment and execute dmesg, which will detect/list your hardware.

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Old 02-19-2011, 11:40 AM   #33
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Well then we're back to where we were.
How do I boot from a usb stick? I've tried all the entries available in the boot menu (F12) with no luck.
 
Old 02-19-2011, 11:45 AM   #34
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Hi,

Sorry about that, lost track a bit. Do you have a Linux installed using Unetbooting on a USB stick? And what happened when booting and what error messages did you get. I understand from previous posts that you tried that already but did you try all USB ports on your computer? Sometimes it makes a difference which one you use.

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Old 02-19-2011, 11:48 AM   #35
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I don't have linux on the hdd, but I do have a .iso in a usb stick, that I put into it using Unetbooting.
If you're asking what happened and what error messages appeared when I booted with that usb stick, then I nothing happened and no messages were displayed, simply because I'm not able to boot from that usb stick, even though I tried all the items on the list that I showed in the uploaded picture.
So... I've tried all 4 entries starting with 'usb' in the boot menu, as the usb stick was this time connected in the back of the computer, but it didn't boot on the usb stick. The 3rd one just prevented the computer from booting at all, and all 3 others just made their way to xp.

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Old 02-19-2011, 12:34 PM   #36
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hey try also the "ZIP" option you got there.

hey and also what happens if you use the "LS120" ? does it alo go in xp?

i mean, i've seen computers that booted from the usb drive but i had to select the usb drive with my drive name(in my case it was Ut-P24) so it might also work

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Old 02-19-2011, 12:42 PM   #37
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I tried it, it brought me back to windows...
 
Old 02-20-2011, 04:00 AM   #38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elishac View Post
I tried it, it brought me back to windows...
This sort of post only drags out a thread by denying information to people who are trying to help you. There have been 37 posts here. About time you made a decent post, reviewed the situation briefly, listed what you have tried, and where things stand now.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 04:12 AM   #39
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I'm sorry I'm not English native so perhaps there's been a misunderstanding but I think I just answered to the previous question, which was 'what happens when I try LS120 and ZIP at the boot menu', and the answer was 'nothing special, it just brings me to xp'.
You're new in this discussion, but I'm sure silvyus_06 and EricTRA understood what I meant.
Maybe you didn't read the whole thread.

Anyway I'm sorry if my answer wasn't clear enough. Please feel free to ask for any more details that you feel are relevant.

Thanks.

edit:I'll try to add a sum up of where things stand now in the next few minutes.

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Old 02-20-2011, 04:15 AM   #40
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Hello elishac and good morning,

Did you have a chance to try and boot off every single USB port you have with the USB key? If so can you post results if any?

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Old 02-20-2011, 04:21 AM   #41
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Hello Eric,

no I didn't try every usb port, I just tried one in the back of the computer and one in the front.
Should I try every usb port, and for each of them, should I try every possibility in the boot menu ?
This is likely to take a few hours, I have around 8 ports, there are 10 possibilities in the boot menu, and it takes around 1 to 2 minutes for xp to launch (it's a slow computer). 160 minutes is almost 3 hours.
Do you want me to try that nonetheless ?
 
Old 02-20-2011, 04:25 AM   #42
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Hello,

The best way to troubleshoot this is indeed to try every possible combination, since I don't know your BIOS, and work a process of elimination. If your BIOS supports USB booting as indicated by your foto, then there must be at least one port that offers that possibility. In order not to loose yourself in the process you should write down what you've done, i.e. which USB port in combination with which USB boot option doesn't work. I know it'll take time but hopefully it will result in booting your computer from the USB drive and being able to install Linux. I would take the USB HDD option as first one, since this is the most logical and from past experience with different systems, that one in my case(s) has always been how the USB stick has been addressed. Good luck, and if you have any doubts don't hesitate to post here.

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Old 02-20-2011, 04:33 AM   #43
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Yes I have a few doubts, if I may.
- I know for a fact that my keyboard (which is a usb keyboard) doesn't work at boot time (it works when the OS has launched, but not when I need to press DEL or F12 at the very beginning to enter the bios or the boot menu. So I need to use an adapter which was given when I bought the keyboard and that permits to connect the usb to the keyboard port of the computer.
I think there is an option in the bios that would allow me to use the keyboard directly, but I never tried it out, I'm not experienced enough to mess with the bios since I know it could mess up my computer and prevent it from booting or worse.

You were saying that you don't know what my bios is. My bios is the one that was given with the motherboard gigabyte p965-ds4.

- Do you not think it would be wiser to try to find out what's wrong with my optical drive, so that I could just use the optical drive to install linux afterwards, instead of having these issues with the usb stick, and since in either case I would like to fix this issue with my optical drive ?

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Old 02-20-2011, 04:55 AM   #44
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Hello,

I agree that trying to fix your optical drive is a priority and that's why we (you) are trying to get a Linux running, be it from USB or any other medium. There's no way to have the same result from your Windows XP. So in order to analyze what you need to get your drive functional, you need access to Linux, which is not (yet) installed on your harddrive and cannot be installed from your optical drive if I understood you correctly.

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Old 02-20-2011, 05:52 AM   #45
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Hello,
Okay, so I'll try to install linux from usb and then we'll try to see what's wrong with the optical drive.
What about my first remark, concerning the usb part.
Don't you think it is possible that there's something wrong in the bios configuration which would prevent the usb ports from being usable at boot time, and which would explain why I can't boot from any of the usb ports I've tried so far ? (I'm almost done trying a second one, which makes it 4 if we count the first two I had already done yesterday).
 
  


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