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Old 08-05-2005, 01:27 PM   #1
illuniel
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Hi guys!

I got this old P1 133 box
w/ 32 MB EDO RAM,
2MB video card
myson ethernet card
conexant win/linmodem
10GB hd
4GB hdc
4GB hd

I want to turn this thing into a PHP server/firewall/Gateway. So, I have been trying to install Linux into it. However, after the slow install, Lilo/Grub don't seem to work. I've tried installing several times now RH9 and Mandrake 10.0. Neither seem to boot up after the install. All it gives me is a
40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 ... and so on.

Please Advise. Should I try some other flavor or is it with the bootloader or cmos settings? I would rather use this old machine too than chunk it in the waste bin.

Many thanks!
 
Old 08-05-2005, 01:36 PM   #2
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Well, you just never know what a Google advanced-search might bring you...

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/.../msg05569.html
Quote:
Lilo manual:
If the BIOS signals an error when LILO is trying to load a boot image, the respective error code is displayed. The following BIOS error codes are known:
[...]
0x40 "Seek failure". This might be a media problem. Try booting again.
My search was for the exact-phrase "40 40 40" and the keyword boot.

I share the opinion that you should definitely use the grub boot-loader rather than LILO.

In the case of LILO, which is totally dependent upon you re-running LILO from the command line after making any change, the problem might simply be that you need to do that. But if you simply get away from LILO altogether and use grub, which is considerably "smarter," many of these issues will probably just go away.
 
Old 08-05-2005, 02:43 PM   #3
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illuniel,

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I got this old P1 133 box
w/ 32 MB EDO RAM,
2MB video card
myson ethernet card
conexant win/linmodem
10GB hd
4GB hdc
4GB hd
I'm confused by the hard drive layout: 10GB hd, 4 GB hdc, 4GB hd --where are hda, hdb?

This might be what's confusing lilo as well, and causing the "seek error." Newbie that I am, I'd start this project with only one hard drive, get that to work, and then add the other drives. I'd review the need for the modem. If you can get by without it, I'd remove it as well.

Also, since this is an older machine, the bios may not be set to handle LBA32 and/or the /etc/lilo.conf may not be set to lba32.

Interesting project!
 
Old 08-06-2005, 05:10 AM   #4
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Many thanks!

hpladd, As per your advice, i am using the 10GB hard disk as my hdc where the lunix distro is installed. I disconnected the rest for now.

As for my boot problem, I tried installing grub and lilo text version and grub on floppy. Neither of them work. I reckon it has more to do with hpladd's suggestion that the bios does is not set to handle lba32.

Once again, I'm stuck in a rut. Please advise once more.
 
Old 08-06-2005, 07:15 AM   #5
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Oye! You've got a lot going on there.

I'm concerned that in working with both grub and lilo, and three hard drives that the configuration settings are pretty thoroughly bodged. You could probably untangle the situation, but it will take a long while. (Note: neither of the boot loaders have sufficient information to actually boot the computer. Instead the boot loaders reference other files/blocks on the hard drive. In switching back and forth from lilo to grub and using three hard drives I'm afraid the references are no longer correct.)

I'd reinstall using only the 10 GIG as hda.

If it takes a long time to install (due to the age of the machine), you could do a minimal install just to see if you can get the machine to boot to a command prompt. Then, if successful, you can either install the needed packages or upgrade the entire installation.

As for the LBA32 issue, I'm guessing that booting the machine and then hitting either the f1 or f8 will get you to the bios settings. Rather than hunting for specific linear/LBA32 settings, I'd look for a "Use default settings" or "reset to defaults" (something like that) and reset all of the settings to default -- most likely the default linear/LBA32 setting is LBA32.

Best of luck.
 
Old 08-15-2005, 10:24 PM   #6
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Hi again!
many thanks! I got the machine up and running! Grub works wonderfully on that old machine. although now, i'm experiencing problems with mandrake 10.0 Community on it. Thinking of downloading a smaller distro with all the basics and just build it from there.

Would you mind suggesting any?

Many thanks in advance...
 
Old 08-16-2005, 03:12 PM   #7
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You wrote:

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i'm experiencing problems with mandrake 10.0 Community on it. Thinking of downloading a smaller distro with all the basics and just build it from there.

Sorry not familiar with Mandrake or Community.
 
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Slackware, Debian, Gentoo, LFS are considered to be the customizer's distros.
 
  


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