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Old 10-26-2009, 07:30 PM   #1
Daistheputridone
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Linux file server???


okay, im going to try to say everything thats needed in one go

my friends and i have on old computer perfect for making a file server that we can access from out laptops while elsewhere to download files, stream media and such, etc, etc

we have ubuntu 9.04(desktop and server edition-though id prefer not to use the server edition as im not good with dos style OS)

we tried samba(as we have windows vista on our currently used machines), but it didnt go well, so to say

which set-up would be best for a linux file server capable of loading/streaming media/files into windows, and how could we go about doing it in the easiest way possible

a few notes
-we prefer not to use the server version if it can be avoided, but are prepared to if need be(otherwise we could download LAMP onto the desktop version)
-we dont want to use windows server, nor do we want to pay for software, or anything of that sort, we dont really have money to spend on anything but upgrades if it comes through
-we DO NOT want a web server, no website, no payable domain names, we simply want to be able to access the directories of the server comp from the internet, via IP, or some form similar to such...
-we'd like to have fun with it and learn as much as we can so we can make it more complex in the future, but we need it running before that, so simplicity is key right now, lol

if i forgot anything, just let me know and ill be happy to tell you, otherwise thanks for your time and assistance, hope to get a little help, if i can, lol

ill check periodically, all answers are appreciated
 
Old 10-26-2009, 08:07 PM   #2
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You can use NFS for this . . . it should work on the desktop or server edition . . . I am not 100% certain but any Linux distribution should have both NFS server and client software included.

If you set up an NFS share and only allow access from your local network, you should get the results that you desire.

You will need to install an NFS client on your Windows machines.

Here's how: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055

This is, in my opinion, less confusing than using SAMBA.

PS - The Linux command line is not "DOS style" . . . and you can run the X11 GUI on any Linux machine . . . .doesn't have to be a "desktop" edition.

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:08 PM   #3
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If you are going to file share to Windows, you are going to have to come to terms with samba. There are distros with samba preinstalled (I think Red Hat and Suse perhaps).

There is no problem using a desktop version of Ubuntu instead of the server; the applications you will install are all the same. A GUI can be a liability for a traditional internet facing server , but for your intranet application it doesn't matter so much.

To stream video, you could look at using vlc. It has both linux and windows versions, can handle many different codecs, and has a number of streaming options.

A LAMP install is overkill.
 
Old 10-26-2009, 08:14 PM   #4
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Might consider Fedora. You can set that up on install.
 
Old 10-26-2009, 08:33 PM   #5
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You can use NFS for this . . . it should work on the desktop or server edition . . . I am not 100% certain but any Linux distribution should have both NFS server and client software included.

If you set up an NFS share and only allow access from your local network, you should get the results that you desire.

You will need to install an NFS client on your Windows machines.

Here's how: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055

This is, in my opinion, less confusing than using SAMBA.

PS - The Linux command line is not "DOS style" . . . and you can run the X11 GUI on any Linux machine . . . .doesn't have to be a "desktop" edition.
ill look into NFS then, and see if it is what im looking for, hopefully it is

for some odd reason i occasionally refer to command line/prompt style OS as DOS unintentionally, i dont know why, my bad on that one, i meant "command line style"

i wasnt aware you could run a GUI on the server edition, though i speculated to that extent, thanks for that, i might just run the desktop edition anyway, easier and all
 
Old 10-26-2009, 08:37 PM   #6
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If you are going to file share to Windows, you are going to have to come to terms with samba. There are distros with samba preinstalled (I think Red Hat and Suse perhaps).

There is no problem using a desktop version of Ubuntu instead of the server; the applications you will install are all the same. A GUI can be a liability for a traditional internet facing server , but for your intranet application it doesn't matter so much.

To stream video, you could look at using vlc. It has both linux and windows versions, can handle many different codecs, and has a number of streaming options.

A LAMP install is overkill.
So, there are no other counterparts to samba for linux to windows file sharing?, or is it just the most effecient one

if absolutely necessary, i found a step by step guide to doing samba on ubuntu, but id prefer to avoid it if at all possible

streaming would be a nice subsidiary, but the main thing i want to get down is the file sharing

i doubted i needed LAMP, but i meant, if needed it wasnt like i couldnt get it on the desktop version
 
Old 10-26-2009, 08:44 PM   #7
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Might consider Fedora. You can set that up on install.
on install, really?

i wish that was in all the flavours of linux, lol

id rather learn how to do it with a 3rd party program,so that we know how to redo it in the future and know the concepts behind the whole thing, just not in an insanely coding advanced way

thanks for the tip though

also sorry about the individual quotes, but
A) i know not how to do multiples, and
B) i like to give individual answers
 
Old 10-26-2009, 08:47 PM   #8
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Just saw this online:
http://www.labf.com/nfsaxe/index.html

It is an alternate Windows NFS client, in case the Microsoft article is not very helpful.
 
Old 10-26-2009, 08:49 PM   #9
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the only differance with ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server is the list of packages installed by default...

if you install ubuntu server then install the ubuntu-desktop pakage,
(sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop) you should get the full ubuntu gui
 
Old 10-26-2009, 09:06 PM   #10
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If this is a computer to use across the internet, have you considered using an FTP server rather than samba? FTP would probably be simpler and if someone has a static IP at home or at least a dynamic one that doesn't change (sounds odd, but that's how my ISP works, 3 years and the lease isn't up) then from a windows machine IE should be all you need [ftp://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]. Even without a static IP you could go with dyndns (I think that's still free) to do resolution for your chosen site name. I've done this in the past to make my music available when I'm working on the road.

I've been able to get samba up and running a number of times in the last 6 weeks (I kill systems for fun and education) with relatively few headaches. I use Mandriva as a media server on my home network and access those files from ubuntu and windows systems. I know nothing of true streaming, but my mp3's all live on my Mandriva system and I play them across the network on all the other machines. That sounds like what you are wanting to do, but I don't know how I would get that going across the internet,
 
Old 10-26-2009, 09:25 PM   #11
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I'd recommend using a VPN over the Internet with NFS or SAMBA rather than FTP. FTP is not very secure unless you use the newer versions that support SSL or TLS. FTP is also not designed for streaming. Of course, neither is SAMBA.

If you don't need access from other locations on the Internet then don't allow any access from the Internet. It will avoid potential security issues.
 
  


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